Trump opens NATO summit with blistering criticism of Germany

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. jem

    jem

    when you look at the middle column... spending in millions of US dollars...
    how can you argue Trump does not have a point? Just eyeballing it, it seems the US is spending more than all of Europe combined to defend Europe.
    Its seems to me Trump is being 2 nice with the 2 percent...
    Why shouldn't Europe paying multiple times more than the US to defend Europe.

    https://www.statista.com/chart/8521/expenditure-of-nato-countries-in-2016/

    Now this is the first or second link I clicked. Let me know if this site link is giving false data. I am not vouching for it.






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    #61     Jul 11, 2018
  2. jem

    jem

    #62     Jul 11, 2018
  3. Gem just posted some out-of-context, half thought out stuff like he does with climate change.

    Black hole coming.
     
    #63     Jul 11, 2018
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  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Yep.Im not even engaging.
     
    #64     Jul 11, 2018
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  5. jem

    jem

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    #65     Jul 11, 2018
  6. UsualName

    UsualName

    Do you realize we have over 150 military bases in Germany and dozens more throughout NATO countries. We use those bases for staging our military in the Middle East, Africa and Parts of Asia.

    The money spend on the military has nothing to do with our NATO commitment. Holding our NATO allies to our outrageous military expenses is ludicrous because our military spending is ludicrous.

    We should cut our military spending.
     
    #66     Jul 11, 2018
  7. jem

    jem

    right now I would like to gather facts.
    How much do you attribute to Nato.
    how much of our spending do you think we should be going NATO.

    in the end I believe a ton of miitary spending by all these countries is done to preserve the private central banking system and to preserve the oil industry status quo. But that is a different argument.

    what is your argument? that the US Tax payers should continue to be be paying for Europe's military needs in the year 2018 and forward?

    Its my belief we should let Europe pay for their own defense. And Europe should be spending more helping keep Africa and Asia stable.

    But, that is just me. Apparently you think we should keep paying.

     
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    #67     Jul 11, 2018
  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    What are you talking about. It is not the Europeans doing that we have so many bases and personnel in Europe, it’s the right wing hawks.

    Our footprint on Europe has very little to do with NATO and more with our status as a superpower and now the world’s only superpower.

    You guys are so confused on 1. What NATO is and 2. What we spend on NATO.

    This country is getting dumber.
     
    #68     Jul 11, 2018
  9. We agree, miracle of miracles. We should start with what we are wasting on NATO, ie pretty much all of it.
     
    #69     Jul 11, 2018
  10. jem

    jem

    you know what is really odd.
    I can't get any facts out of the lefties... about the spending...

    but it seems the Trump hatred causes the left to be defending military spending as they say we should be cutting military spending.
     
    #70     Jul 11, 2018