Trump mocked for low attendance at rally

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tony Stark, Jun 21, 2020.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Actually, that's not correct. Trump's campaign, "Re-elect Trump Inc." or whatever it's called, they are the ones that have to buy the license.

    There's different rules for sporting arenas, civic centers, etc. Their licenses are only good for events they sponsor. Trump rents the place. Its different. There are all different categories of ASCAP licenses. You are thinking of the type that is licensed to a bar or nightclub.

    Since Trump takes his traveling medicine show all over and rents the various venues, his campaign is the one required to hold that license. I think it's called a "conventions and expositions" agreement and its valid for a negotiated period of time.

    Either way, they can't technically stop him.... ALTHOUGH... there is a gray area there as these events do in fact get televised.. but that might even be covered too if the network in question also has a license. Which I'm pretty sure they do.
     
    #71     Jun 24, 2020
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Actually all the articles and information indicated that the arenas hold the license.... not the political campaign.

    Keep in mind that many events rent arenas - rather than being sponsored -- it is all based on the structure of the agreement. Everything from fire-arm shows to women empowerment seminars rent arenas..... all of these events come with full rights to the licensed music library of the venue.
     
    #72     Jun 24, 2020
  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    The articles are wrong.
    Hold on a second.
     
    #73     Jun 24, 2020
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Here's the agreement for arenas:

    Read paragraph 2 (d) (i)

    https://www.ascap.com/~/media/files...ents_rates_reports/municipalities-license.pdf

    This license does not authorize performances: (i) at any convention, exposition, trade show, conference, congress, industrial show or similar activity presented by LICENSEE or on the Premises unless it is presented or sponsored solely by and under the auspices of LICENSEE, is presented entirely on LICENSEE'S Premises, and is not open to the general public
     
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    #74     Jun 24, 2020
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I don't like repeating myself
    so a link to "all these articles" saying arenas hold licenses to all the music spurring complaints would be nice
     
    #75     Jun 24, 2020
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  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

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    #76     Jun 24, 2020
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #77     Jun 24, 2020
  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Here's the gray area, but like I said, pretty sure the networks hold a license too, albeit also a different type of license.

    (b) This license does not authorize the broadcasting, telecasting or transmission by wire or by wireless means or otherwise, of renditions of musical compositions in SOCIETY’s repertory to persons outside of the premises where each function shall be presented. Nothing in this Paragraph 2(b) shall be deemed to limit LICENSEE’s right to transmit renditions of musical compositions in SOCIETY’s repertory to attendees in connection with teleconferences pursuant to Paragraph 1(d) (i) of this Agreement or in connection with transmissions through LICENSEE’s event website. (c) This license shall be limited to performances of music during functions conducted, sponsored, endorsed or approved by, or presented by or under the auspices of LICENSEE as part of or in conjunction with LICENSEE’s events which are open only to attendees.(d) This license does not authorize performances of music on LICENSEE’s event website other than performances made in direct connection with LICENSEE’s events.

    Where's the link to that?

    Here's all of them.

    https://www.ascap.com/music-users/licensefinder
     
    #78     Jun 24, 2020
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I would take it that a venue is either private club or a public local/state government facility. Most sign one year or greater licensing agreements.
     
    #79     Jun 24, 2020
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    See the section titled - Arena or Stadium in the 2018 master license agreement

    https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/performingRights/Files/2018/2018ASCAPLicensingBook.pdf
     
    #80     Jun 24, 2020