Trump is making a big mistake?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by NY_HOOD, Mar 24, 2020.

  1. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    p.s. if any had a Corona Virus at all, they'd be labelled C-19 death, so less kinda.
     
    #151     Apr 1, 2020
  2. smallfil

    smallfil

    Yeah, because the Chinese are not going to take advantage of the European Union? The trade imbalance with Europe already favors China by a mile. China does not do things for free. There is a catch and it would favor China. Ask the countries under the Silk Road program of China. They ended up taking loans they cannot afford and who benefits from that Silk Road? Certainly not those poor countries. Europeans can be exploited because they made their choice. US already saw the perils of globalism and outsourcing jobs to China and abroad. Now, under President Donald Trump, we know better and nothing wrong with America First. Switzerland looks after its interests and had the sense not to join the European Union. If it was so good, why did they not join? Swiss people look after their best interests which is why they are doing so much better than the European Union countries. Call it Switzerland First. Nothing wrong with loving your country and your people. People will see at some point the folly of being enslaved by the Chinese. And the US will be relevant because we look after our own interests now. If the US was irrelevant, why do 1,000,000 people from the world patiently, wait their turn to immigrate to the US? Hell, European Union can choose not to trade with the US and vice versa. Let us see who gets hurt more economically.
     
    #152     Apr 1, 2020
  3. Vindago

    Vindago

    You have the same level of understanding of world politics and the meaning of areas of influence as Trump, thus your answer...

    Europe is not choosing China, Europe deals with China because America is not interested in maintaining the special relationship that it has built with Europe fighting alongside it to get rid of the Nazi and has maintained until Trump came into power (thanks Putin for that)

    So now, soon America will be first but alone as other less powerful countries that would rather stay close to the the america that used to be the leader of freedom and democracy has totally abdicated its predicament and so they are left with China and Russia.

    also keep dreaming about bringing back unskilled jobs to america, it will never happen as that would bankrupt most american companies. where do you think the parts for all your iphones are made?
     
    #153     Apr 1, 2020
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    at the rate we're going, it may end up being cheaper to have American labor.
     
    #154     Apr 1, 2020
  5. Vindago

    Vindago

    that is simply not true, the test is very, very specific for CV19 as it is done by PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) that check if specific RNA sequences belonging exclusively to COV19 are prensent in the sample taken from the nose of the patient. it is a very, very specific test.
     
    #155     Apr 1, 2020
  6. Vindago

    Vindago

    Probably once the crisis will have lost 50m jobs throughout america, however those people will have to be trained because producing microchips is not the same as any other job (for instance you need to works in dust free environment with positive pressure, not so different form Ebola labs...
     
    #156     Apr 1, 2020
  7. apdxyk

    apdxyk

    Unskilled jobs are done by robots nowadays, and Chinese understand this, hence the race for robotization on their part. With sensible regulatory requirements (the greatest obstacle) we can bring production anywhere we want in reasonably short amount of time.
     
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    #157     Apr 1, 2020
  8. apdxyk

    apdxyk

    You mean clean-rooms Class 10? There are plenty around me. What planet are you from? A fountain of gushing superiority. You must be insulated from reality quite well. Using Internet, in the first place...
     
    #158     Apr 1, 2020
  9. bone

    bone

    538 and Politico and NYT - certainly not Pro-Trump by any measure, recognizes that so far Trump has been helped and not hurt by the COVID-19 crisis.

    I’m not so sure that Joe Biden wins the mental competency challenge. If you’ve already got Joe Rogan and The Hill calling him out on it - pray for divine intervention and Gov. Cuomo.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/us/politics/trump-approval-rating.amp.html

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/senate/490504-coronavirus-crisis-scrambles-2020-political-calculus?amp

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/fiveth...ains-the-bump-in-trumps-approval-ratings/amp/
     
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    #159     Apr 1, 2020
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark



    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-approval-bump-is-puny-and-probably-fleeting-204951615.html

    Trump’s approval bump is puny and probably fleeting

    Yahoo Finance March 31, 2020, 3:49 PM CDT


    President Trump is enjoying a modest improvement in his approval ratings, and he’s also proud of the TV ratings for his daily briefings

    Trump should be alarmed instead. His approval ratings have risen far less than other leaders’ ratings during the coronavirus crisis, and Americans don’t seem to fully grasp the severity of the recession that’s coming as businesses shut down and millions lose their jobs. As a tsunami of hardship swamps the nation, Trump may find that his boasting and deflections backfire as people become more and more desperate for relief.

    For now, Trump’s approval rating has risen from 43% at the beginning of March—before the coronavirus had shut down much of the U.S. economy – to 45% at the end of the month, according to the Fivethirtyeight composite of polls. Gallup puts Trump’s rating at 49%. By either measure, his approval ratings are close to the highest of his presidency, while his disapproval ratings are close to the lowest levels.


    The gains are very small, however, compared with changes in approval ratings for other prominent leaders. Approval ratings for the UK’s Boris Johnson’s rose 15 points in two weeks, according to Morning Consult.

    Ratings are up 9 points for Germany’s Angela Merkel and 7 points for France’s Emmanuel Macron. Canada’s Justin Trudeau is up 11 points and Australia’s Scott Morrison is up 13 points.

    In New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s approval rating has soared from 50% to 71%, as Cuomo conducts televised daily briefings on the crisis in New York, similar to Trump’s daily White House briefings. People normally “rally around the flag” and support their leader during a crisis, yet Trump seems to be badly underperforming, compared with other leaders.

    That small Trump bump could vanish and become an erosion of support if mainstream economic forecasts come true in coming months. Oxford Economics expects more than 20 million people to lose their jobs by the end of April, with the unemployment rate spiking from 3.5% to 12%. That would be unprecedented carnage. During the Great Recession of 2007–2009, the ranks of the unemployed swelled by 8.6 million or less than half the outlook for the next month alone. The unemployment rate back then peaked at just 10%.

    Not feeling it yet?
    Americans don’t grasp how bad this is going to get. Consumer confidence fell in the latest Conference Board survey—but only to the levels of early 2016. It’s still way higher than the depths confidence hit during the low point of the Great Recession in 2009. People obviously know something serious is going on when stores and restaurants close indefinitely. But many haven’t yet felt the recession in their paychecks, in lost health insurance or in the distress of family members.

    The huge $2.2 trillion stimulus bill Congress just passed will ease the pain for some. Extreme monetary stimulus from the Federal Reserve will also help contain some of the damage. But neither of these measures will do the one thing most likely to end the recession: Contain the virus.

    That’s up to Trump, to some extent. Aggressive, competent efforts to massively increase testing and keep people home—regardless of the short-term economic costs—could shorten the duration of the misery. But Trump has performed poorly up till now. He dismissed the threat of the virus for nearly two months, wasting valuable time that gave the virus a foothold in many large cities. He has pushed the idea of reopening the economy prematurely, which could cause a double-dip recession if the virus resurges. Trump also says he’s not aware that a shortage of testing is a problem, even though it’s all over the news and governors have been complaining about shortages to the White House directly.

    Trump may be appealing to some voters who flip on his briefings seeking reassurance at a troubling time. But Trump will lose what credibility he has left if he tries to convince Americans everything is fine when they’re short on rent and wondering who can help. That may already be happening. Even as Trump’s approval inches up, Joe Biden, his likely Democratic challenger in the presidential race, seems to have an edge. Biden leads Trump by an average of 6.5 percentage points in the Real Clear Politics aggregate of polls, suggesting voters would actually prefer to change horses in the midst of a crisis. Maybe they like Trump as a TV character but want somebody else for a leader
     
    #160     Apr 1, 2020