Trump is grossly immoral and should be removed from office so sayeth the Christianity Today

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Dec 20, 2019.

  1. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Not this

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    #21     Dec 20, 2019
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  2. Black_Cat

    Black_Cat

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    #22     Dec 20, 2019
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  3. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Would be interesting if there was a Trump supporter who corrected nonsense like all the dem voters are atheists.

    I'm wondering if little NYC black cat is possibly republican Jewish as an observant Christian would know that church attendees are politically diverse. Also they know such hubris takes them to a "looking up" position.

    Atheists think better of course so would take five seconds to check. Pew survey:

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    #23     Dec 21, 2019
  4. Wallet

    Wallet

    At least half?

    Maybe Blackcat rememberers the 2012 DNC controversy.

    Drafting the platform the DNC changed and omitted all references to God and Jerusalem being the capital of Israel, which became a huge negative talking point. To put an end to the controversy they held a vote to change back their platform stance to include God and Jerusalem, they needed a 2/3’s vote from the floor. You tell me if they met their required margin.

    Here’s your party denying God three times before the proverbial cock crows.



    You’ll never find that debate in the GOP.
     
    #24     Dec 21, 2019
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  5. smallfil

    smallfil

    It is funny when the extreme liberal hypocrites talk about morality and lecture you. Their group is the most immoral of all time. They champion open borders, leniency for criminals including, the most vicious, higher taxes, more government control over everything, etc. There used to be a time in the US where you do not slander and attack a person just because you did not like their policies. Anyone remember that? None of the previous US Presidents have seen the amount of vitriol, hatred, slander than President Donald Trump. They certainly, do not mention all the good he has done for majority of Americans like securing the US borders, generating millions of new jobs, more fair trade deals, lower taxes for companies and individuals, more respect for the US anywhere you go. So, spare us your BS rants and whining. None of your lies matter because majority of Americans can see the truth for themselves.
     
    #25     Dec 21, 2019
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  6. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I'm not sure really where to start with you but I'd suggest you consider

    "My kingdom is not of this world"

    You know there is rather a LOT about regarding separation of Earth/state & heaven.
    https://www.openbible.info/topics/separation_of_church_and_state

    A LOT and you would do well to read that list and try and balance the equation.

    Secondly but related to above, you appear to assume that the less than certain and who but a rare fool does not feel doubts, are written off. Even those who say they don't believe may change and often do and vice versa. I'd suggest to you that you stop thinking about other people's faith or not in a binary or sports team manner. I can only say that from 28 years now (I'm still under 50) of reasonably involved hospice volunteering. On and off but enough to be around a very many deaths (many faiths) and that is rather instructive on the fabric of faith. If you can only view the world as a mad scramble for 'points' then think of how many games/lives have an unexpected ending.

    You might also consider why are there so many Jews, even living in the country of Israel, who view is as a place but not actually "Israel".

    Just a start https://forward.com/opinion/430535/a-lot-more-jews-are-anti-zionists-than-you-think/

    Evangelicals especially and many extremist Jewish Zionists have used propaganda and gullibility to characterise those who are not convinced prophecy can be forced are against Jews. Reasonable and educated minds can disagree, the people who you need to be wary of are the absolutely certain.

    Finally, borders and refugees. I won't insult your intelligence by reminding you that if the Bible is clear about one thing, it is you must welcome them. That said, it is best to prevent the problem in the first place so people don't need to migrate. My view on this is, it seems to me, that in order to make the case stronger for a 'wall' the home countries of many migrants in Central America were nudged toward instability. Never assume conspiracy when incompetence will suffice etc. etc. however Stephen Miller reads every kind of wrong to me. To have faith you have to walk the walk and trust, that is very hard and I I generally see Evangelicals and the like trying to bend the rules so their faith has a position of strength to fall back to if actually tested..

    Anyway I'll leave you with a little joke for Christmas.

    "I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!"

    "Why shouldn't I?" he said.

    I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"

    He said, "Like what?"

    I said, "Well, are you religious or atheist?"

    He said, "Religious."

    I said, "Me too! Are your Christian or Buddhist?"

    He said, "Christian." I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

    He said, "Protestant."

    I said, "Me too! Are you Methodist or Baptist?"

    He said, "Baptist!"

    I said, "Wow! Me too! Are your Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

    He said, "Baptist Church of God!"

    I said, "Me too! Are your Original Baptist Church of God or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?"

    He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!"

    I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?"

    He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915!"

    I said, "Die, heretic scum!" and pushed him off."
     
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    #26     Dec 22, 2019
  7. Cuddles

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    #27     Dec 25, 2019