Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Dec 19, 2023.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    you yourself have admitted the SC will punt taking up the case already giving a criminal a pass on insurrection. The SC will not take up a case w/o an outstanding appeal so a state may as well bring suit knowing it will need to be addressed. Where's the rules for the insurrection clause needing a jury? (as far as I can tell, it's uncarted territory). A state has the right to bring election interference charges.....there's a plethora of federal crimes a state will act in preventing....if the feds fail to act, does the state not have a responsibility? FWIW, I get that Texas is attempting to usurp the very power from immigration enforcement though they've failed to demonstrate damage to the state by immigration.
     
    #231     Jan 2, 2024
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    This may be the time to point out again that numerous candidates have been removed from the ballot by state courts and/or state officials using the 14th Amendment Article 3 since the post-Reconstruction period (later than 1900). Most of these candidates were removed for being socialists or communists. Not a single one of them was convicted in a criminal trial. There is no requirement that a candidate be convicted in a criminal trial (or found responsible in a civil trial) for them to be removed from the ballot or office as per the 14th Amendment Article 3. This principle has already been established in all the previous legal action.
     
    #232     Jan 2, 2024
  3. Are you referring to candidates in elections entirely within the State or ones with federal effect becuse removing a state senator is entirely within a state....not a presidential candidate who many people in Colorado want to vote for....

    cite some of the cases and compare for yourself and see how if they are comparable...
     
    #233     Jan 2, 2024
  4. #234     Jan 2, 2024
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    There have been nearly a dozen instances since 1900 -- including all the socialists and communists. Your link from CREW does not provide the full list. The majority were state and local officials.
     
    #235     Jan 2, 2024
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Trump is not the only one being targeted to be removed from the ballot under the 14th Amendment Section 3 for being an insurrectionist in the current election cycle.


    Lawsuit Filed To Remove Scott Perry From The Ballot For Violating The 14th Amendment
    Perry helped incite the January 6th insurrection, the lawsuit alleges
    https://www.meidastouch.com/news/la...m-the-ballot-for-violating-the-14th-amendment

    A lawsuit has been filed to remove Congressman Scott Perry, the former chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, from the ballot for violating the 14th Amendment's insurrection clause. The lawsuit alleges that Perry engaged in a conspiracy to incite a violent insurrection on January 6, 2021. It was filed by a local Democratic activist and comes just weeks after Special Counsel Jack Smith obtained Perry's personal text messages in furtherance of his investigation into January 6, 2021.

    This latest news comes amid a significant legal battle over the meaning of the 14th Amendment. The Colorado Supreme Court has already ruled that former President Donald Trump should be removed from the state's ballot, while other states like Michigan and Minnesota, have defined the confines of the 14th Amendment differently. One key issue that is distinct in Perry's case, however, is that Perry is not running for President. All of the courts that have decided the issue have assumed that members of Congress are subject to the insurrection clause. The key issue here will be whether the courts are the proper avenue to remove someone from the ballot for violating the 14th Amendment's insurrection clause.

    (Article has PDF of lawsuit)
     
    #236     Jan 3, 2024
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    He/She doesn't know what they are talking about. There have been only 2 disqualifications under Sec 3 since 1900. Both were convicted of crimes against The US. --In any event, whether Trump is convicted or not, Sec 3 of the 14th does not apply to the President.
     
    #237     Jan 4, 2024
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    These GOP clowns have no grounds to remove Biden from the ballot. Their narrative is laughable.

    Ron DeSantis floats removing Biden from Florida primary ballot
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-floats-removing-biden-florida-primary-ballot

    Republican secretary of state threatens to kick Biden off the ballot as Trump payback
    Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft said that while he didn’t want to do it, he had to remind people of how “severe” the situation is.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...retary-of-state-biden-trump-ballot-rcna132600
     
    #238     Jan 6, 2024
  9. #239     Jan 13, 2024
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  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Trump Was Allegedly Kicked Out of Fancy NYC Steakhouse for His Stench, ‘The Smell Was So Offensive!’
    https://www.politicalflare.com/2024...khouse-for-his-stench-smell-was-so-offensive/
     
    #240     Jan 29, 2024