Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Dec 19, 2023.

  1. Trump's roadmap towards the presidency...

    Majority of Americans support removing Trump from Colorado ballot

    A new YouGov poll finds the majority of Americans, 54%, support the Colorado Supreme Court’s Tuesday decision that Donald Trump is ineligible to appear on that state’s 2024 primary ballot, because he engaged in insurrection. In a further hit to the twice-impeached former president, the poll found barely more than one-third, just 35%, disagreed with that ruling.

    Participants were asked, “Do you approve or disapprove of the Colorado Supreme Court ruling that Donald Trump can’t appear on the state’s 2024 Republican presidential primary ballot because his actions leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021 takeover of the Capitol amount to insurrection or rebellion against the United States?”

    A whopping 84% of Democrats, 48% of independents, and even almost one in four Republicans, 24%, agreed with the decision to remove Trump.

    In a further blow to the ex-president, 38% strongly agreed with the ruling, while just 28% strongly disagreed.

    Meanwhile, nearly six in ten Republicans, 58%, believe the U.S. Supreme Court will reverse the Colorado court’s decision. Overall, less than half of all Americans, 43%, think the Supreme Court will overrule the state Supreme Court, but just 23% think the Supreme Court will uphold it. One-third (34%) of Americans are unsure.
     
    #101     Dec 21, 2023
  2. I think their goal is to get ANOTHER GOP candidate to win by wiping out trump... I doubt any GOP anti-trumper wants Biden for another 4 years... they are trying to clear a path for Nikki or Ronnie or whoever besides trump who is killing the party.
     
    #102     Dec 21, 2023
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  3. trump is the tweet gift that keeps on giving...
     
    #103     Dec 21, 2023
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's see what Colorado GOP plans to do in response. Oh, they will hold a caucus instead of a primary. What a concept --- until you take a look at the legalities of it.

    Colorado GOP Threatens to Go Rogue if Trump Decision Stands
    The Colorado Department of State warned that it would be “a matter for the Courts” if the state’s Republican party withdrew from or ignored the results of the primary.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/color...primary-results-if-trump-stays-off-the-ballot

    Assembling behind Donald Trump in the wake of the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision on Tuesday to disqualify him from the state’s Republican primary ballot, the Colorado Republican Party is vowing to abandon the primary for a caucus system should the decision be upheld.

    The party announced the potential move on Tuesday night, replying to a tweet from Vivek Ramaswamy in which the Colorado businessman pledged to withdraw from the state’s primary ballot until Trump was allowed back on it.

    “You won’t have to,” the Colorado GOP’s X account replied, “because we will withdraw from the Primary as a Party and convert to a pure caucus system if this is allowed to stand.”

    Later that night, Dave Williams, the chairman of the state party, reaffirmed the plan. “I’m not going to let these sons of bitches dictate who we’re going to nominate,” he said in an X Spaces virtual event, according to The Colorado Sun.

    On white nationalist Laura Loomer’s online show, he added, addressing the Colorado Supreme Court, “Go fuck yourself. To quote Elon Musk.”



    The interview with Loomer was one of several Williams gave in the wake of the announcement, variously explaining the party’s decision and decrying the court’s “election interference.” To the Sun, Williams said that the party would first ask the state to cancel its Republican presidential primary should Trump be excluded. If the Colorado Department of State refused to cancel it, he said, “we will ignore the primary” results.

    The caucus system—unlike a primary system, which is overseen by a state government—is run by the political parties themselves. A caucus is an in-person meeting allowing attendees to publicly align with and choose their own candidate, with a presidential caucus being used to pick delegates who agree to vote for the chosen candidate at a nominating convention.

    Used in a handful of states, including Iowa and Nevada, the caucus system typically favors candidates with a passionate and organized following, according to PBS. It was used in Colorado until 2020, when state voters approved the switch to the primary system.

    The Colorado Department of State clarified in a statement to the Sun that state law would not allow its Republican party to withdraw from or cancel the primary.


    “If the Colorado Republican Party attempts to withdraw from the Presidential Primary or ignore the results of the election, this would likely be a matter for the Courts,” the statement warned.

    The state sends 37 “electorally unimportant” delegates, as the Sun labeled them on Wednesday, to the Republican National Convention every four years. A decidedly blue state, Colorado is unlikely to swing for a Republican presidential candidate, with Joe Biden having beaten Trump soundly there in 2020.

    Colorado’s Republican primary is scheduled for March 5, 2024. Williams told CNN on Wednesday that he’s “counting on” the U.S. Supreme Court to have struck down the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision by then.

    “We feel that if this is dragged on there’s going to be… other cases that are going to be brought across the country to remove Donald Trump, and that’s something that we can’t abide,” he added.

    The Colorado Supreme Court put its ruling on hold until Jan. 4 to allow the Trump campaign to appeal the decision to the U.S. Supreme Court. It is unclear whether the matter will reach the high court before then, but the campaign has indicated that it plans to appeal quickly.

    Nevertheless, Williams told NBC News that the Colorado Republican Party would look to kick off the process of putting together a caucus in “the next week or two,” requesting a waiver to convert the system from the Republican National Committee.

    Still, he said, state Republicans are hoping the Supreme Court will side with them, eliminating the need for the waiver. “We’re figuring it out as we go,” Williams said.
     
    #104     Dec 21, 2023
  5. You dont think GOP will link Hunter to the Big Guy in money received from China? They are working on impeachment proceedings right now for Biden based on his son... 14th Amendment implies that GOP can say Biden committed treason by helping his son get money from Chinese government. doesnt have to be proven in a court of law amirite?
     
    #105     Dec 21, 2023

  6. Vivek is like 1-2% polling right now... he is already withdrawn and does not know it.

    No one is going to listen to the demands of the guy losing already really badly who has no effect on the election in any state haha...
     
    #106     Dec 21, 2023
  7. He's desperately seeking a cabinet position or some such in a mythical second Trump term.
     
    #107     Dec 21, 2023
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    I don't want Biden for another 4, either, but I sure as hell don't want an anti-democracy president. This country can try any economic or social experiment it wants to, democracy ensures the country can change its mind if it doesn't like the result.
     
    #108     Dec 21, 2023
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  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    Well, as fallacious as that argument is, it would open the door to having a look at the $2 billion Javanka got from the Saudis...
     
    #109     Dec 21, 2023
  10. You miss my point... I dont want trump... but I dont want an unconstitutional action by a state court to be the means to remove him and set that precedent.

    You are only in favor of it because you want the outcome but are overlooking the process to get there.... that is not democracy. When the GOP swings the axe you wielded back in your face you cannot cry then that it is an unfair process once you endorse going around the Constitution.

    trump was elected by the people.....trump is not the problem, we are.
     
    #110     Dec 21, 2023
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