Trump is correct...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by futurecurrents, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Good comeback.
     
    #21     Feb 24, 2017
  2. It's his favorite. Whenever he hears something that doesn't quite comport with his bubbled world view, he shuts his eyes, sticks his fingers in his ears, and shouts "Neener-neener-neener!"

    Placing you on ignore is the Internet equivalent.
     
    #22     Feb 24, 2017
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  4. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Can you please post information/links/evidence that provide quotes from Bannon that prove he has been "VERY vocal about starting a race war."
     
    #24     Feb 24, 2017
  5. jem

    jem

    I was responding to the innuendos about racism that piezoe and you lefties keep throwing around.

    But, I am glad you asked that question about will he accept her as equal as a person. I see no reason why anyone states that Trump is a racist until they can show he does not accept their equality.



     
    #25     Feb 24, 2017
  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    #26     Feb 24, 2017
  7. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    You stated that he has been very vocal about starting a race war. I tried to read most of the article you posted. I did not read one quote that stated he wanted to start a race war. No evidence of that whatsoever. Didn't even infer it.

    Did I mess something?

    Futhermore, the headline is extremely misleading. He didn't state he wanted to start WWIII. Bannon basically stated that historically after big economic downturns there have been wars. There are many economist and historians that correlate economic depressions with war.
     
    #27     Feb 24, 2017
  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    No one who is a public figure is going to start by directly saying "let's kill all the muslims." Even hitler didn't do that.

    But for example his famous statement about Asian CEO's in tech was really something to the effect of "a civic society is much more than it's economy" meaning he would rather not have microsoft's renaissance under an Indian CEO and have a white guy do it. Reportedly it was his insistence that they ban green card holders as part of the Muslim ban.

    He believes in the fourth turning (I think that's what the theory is called) and is active in pushing its outcome forward.

    On a brietbart interview in like 2015, trump said he wanted an immigration policy that blocked out the rifraff but allowed the worlds smsrtest to come in. He was opposed to that. He wants a white only America and he wants to create chaos to get there.

    Edit:
    I just read this. In contrast to Bannon here is what the new national security advisor has to say: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...el-radical-islamic-terrorism-not-helpful.html
    Even foxnews is saying as a one liner that the trump administration is pushing a "battle of civilizations."
    This guy is respected by everyone and is probably trumps best pick for any position so far.
     
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    #28     Feb 25, 2017
  9. Agree, Trump is correct.
     
    #29     Feb 25, 2017
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  10. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    After reading the following article it seems Bannon was most likely referring to the author's theory in his book. If that is the case, it has nothing to do with your conjecture and misrepresentation of his quotes. Bannon's opinion seem to have absolutely nothing to do with a race war. But, if you can provide some quotes that actually illustrate that Bannon wants to start a race war and not just your conjecture, I am more than willing to change my mind.

    The author infers that he is liberal and has many liberal fans.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/ente...76c69081518_story.html?utm_term=.2a7fbad38ce5

    I wrote that book with William Strauss back in 1997. It is true that Bannon is enthralled by it. In 2010, he released a documentary, “Generation Zero,” that is structured around our theory that history in America (and by extension, most other modern societies) unfolds in a recurring cycle of four-generation-long eras. While this cycle does include a time of civic and political crisis — a Fourth Turning, in our parlance — the reporting on the book has been absurdly apocalyptic.

    The cycle begins with the First Turning, a “High” which comes after a crisis era. In a High, institutions are strong and individualism is weak. Society is confident about where it wants to go collectively, even if many feel stifled by the prevailing conformity.

    The Second Turning is an “Awakening,” when institutions are attacked in the name of higher principles and deeper values. Just when society is hitting its high tide of public progress, people suddenly tire of all the social discipline and want to recapture a sense of personal authenticity.

    The Third Turning is an “Unraveling,” in many ways the opposite of the High. Institutions are weak and distrusted, while individualism is strong and flourishing.

    Finally, the Fourth Turning is a “Crisis” period. This is when our institutional life is reconstructed from the ground up, always in response to a perceived threat to the nation’s very survival. If history does not produce such an urgent threat, Fourth Turning leaders will invariably find one — and may even fabricate one — to mobilize collective action.
     
    #30     Feb 26, 2017