Trump impeachment odds on the rise, highest of 2018, after rough month of negative stories

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Frederick Foresight, Apr 9, 2018.

  1. Your post makes me ill. You are helping your PHD daughter with her course work? Please excuse me for a moment while I take a call from a Mr. Dunning Kruger!

    Note to self: If you are going to challenge people online, do your homework first so you don’t have to face an IT professional who can teach college level statistics. For all I know this guy was a top quant for Goldman well before most people knew what a quant was. I started it, now will have to take ownership of it, Mr. Maximum Possible Suffering. Maybe I take him down in a rap battle...

    Take your time, Mr. Slartibartfast. Looking forward to your answer.
     
    #31     Apr 9, 2018
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  2. KevinD

    KevinD

    Beautiful.
     
    #32     Apr 9, 2018
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  3. I agree, but I don't know about the "too old" part. He's the same age as Trump, but he has all of his faculties intact, as well as the benefit of experience. Trump is a doddering old fool by comparison who can no longer speak in complete sentences unless he's reading them.
     
    #33     Apr 10, 2018
  4. Firstly I saw this from the show Portlandia where you are based and figured it was too funny to waste as I had just called you a scout, one of the deep web guys?

    Sorry about the flicker.



    Now to that really long message.
     
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    #34     Apr 10, 2018
  5. Oh god.. I need to get to the other day's @maximumpossiblesuffering 's post and I'm trying to be straight about it when I do. This is not helping! Your never-one-mind bouncing about is hard for an old man.

    A PhD candidate does not have 'course work', they are finished with all of that as you should know if you have any education.. They have work though.

    I was helping with a nifty 3d interactive visualisation is all, big daddy may be just a simple man but he has some smart people working for him.



    He still had to stay up all night to finish it himself. He is not talking about himself in the third party.. he should be president.
     
    #35     Apr 10, 2018
  6. I never actually saw this at all so not lazy, just blind. Response in-line, in green. Spanish windows so probably several missed typos.. all red underlined for me.

    The NRA is a sick cult run by a psychopath. Wayne is I promise you complete bastard. Successful (semi)psychopaths like him can fool almost anyone who meets them into thinking they are right minded level clear thinkers. The NRA prey on the weak minded with jingoistic nonsense like guns don't kill people and bullshit stats. Some other ploys that seem fair but it is all lobbying. By supporting them, a cargo cult, Americans have failed as a men and as actual patriots. On the other hand there are Scientologists so hey, what can you do. You don't need to be in a club of fools, my advice cancel.
    Your comment above is a cornucopia of ad hominum attacks. You are an exceptionally intelligent and well travelled man who has strong research capabilities. This is why I give your posts great weight. However, your assertions about the NRA and its large numbers of members need support. Specific facts that you can think of top of mind is sufficient. No need to cite sources here.

    My joining the NRA and supporting Trump have common denominators: The Left is going too far Left and the media is promoting a reduction in several of our civil rights 24/7. As a registered Democrat for ten plus years, my support Trump and the NRA is reactionary and out of alarm.

    Wayne is a sick bastard. You are just upset now because you joined his cult and even gave away extra money you say?.. ok.. The NRA is not the appropriate response because, well you know, it is run by bad people. Think David Miscavige. That aside.. well we need a common frame of reference here. I loved this as a kid, I had it on a book with a record! (dyslexic older brother, very advanced in those days) Return to this later.




    Large countries with low population densities like the US, Australia and Brazil do seems to have a phenomenon where criminals & psychopaths can move on easily and blend in, the extreme cases are 1% of all male populations but they can act out more safely if they can move. Big countries are an advantage to them. Churches are also heavy with them in the US as it is a perfect mask for a psychopath looking for a social cover.

    Colt made men equal but he created cowards of many as well. Conflict between men is a skill, something you learn by doing it in person growing up. When everyone is afraid of lethal force from everyone else there is no competition. Guns lead to more guns, lead to more lawlessness. There is a balance to be struck. When everyone is equal with guns, nobody is. (makes only part sense but hey, if Wayne can do it)..
    I agree with you on conflict between men being a skill, and will talk about specific examples in a differnt paragraph below. By the way, I’m suprised to hear you regurgitating the NRA like quote of “Colt made men equal”, especially considering you first paragraph.

    I think you did not read what I wrote carefully enough? Maybe read that again?


    It is cool living in almost lawless places, very libertarian, however it is a tough gig when everyone tries to fuck everyone else over.

    Randomly picking one of scores of violent incidents from my years as an AP ranger. A bigger black guy (I was maybe 250, he 320+) pulled a gun on me at a bar outside Livingstone Zambia, he was the aggressor but drunk and emboldened by a nice little Glock some rich hunter had given him and had done this to a few people. I was cool, I waited and later got a leverage position, grabbed the gun, fired it a few times till it was good and hot then literally shoved it into his asshole. Not far or actually burned but he screamed a lot, nobody died, imagine that? *It could have been worse for him.
    I have been in several conflicts where I was always at physical disadvantage, but always at a mental advantage. My choice of action has always been exceptional and included standing my ground, de-escalating the situation, and lightly striking my hopelessly larger and stronger opponent while he charged me. The outcome of most situations is determined by one’s emotional and mental state and not their physicality or what weapons they have.

    I was hoping to see you address the issue of women vulnerabilities in our “Almost lawless place”. Many women have confided with me very personal things including molestation and rape. The chances of a woman being attacked in her lifetime is way too high. The impact on a women after an attack, assuming she survives, is life long. Women feel things emotionally many times more than than a typical man does. A woman should have a variety of self defense options available to her.

    Well I'll agree that a PMA, knowing you have already won before anything starts will stop it occurring in a normal law bound place. It is important not to show too much aggression as you will force the opponent to escalate, keep the professional face on, I like the whole Judge Dredd thing as I grew up reading the comic (Karl Urban, not Stallone if you have only seen movies).

    Now when dealing with a monster you can't de-escalate as he needs to be arrested.. I like and I recommend ladies learn the following. Using your less dominant hand (for legal reasons) punch upwards into the space between the neck and jaw, you will expect to glance the Adam's apple on the way. A rap to the larynx takes a few seconds but that alone will be effective (lethal if you don't practice). If you hit the under jaw right, you will jar the brain pretty good. It takes very few pounds per square inch (a woman can do this) to knock out almost anyone.

    Now, at the same time with your dominant right flat to get in behind the belt (or left) thrust down and grab hold of his junk and really try to lift him up off the ground with that. Immediately turn him away or if he is huge, move yourself to behind as he may puke on you. Nobody likes that. Wash your right hand, preferably without looking.. I once hit a Maori like this who had a big dose of.. what is green and yellow and eats nuts? if you follow me. Ewww..

    This is something you will need to practice hundreds of times, a rubberised dummy is ideal.

    If you don't want to learn this, maybe you understand the need not to escalate until the US is a lawless place. Fly, Spider, Bird.. handful of junk.

    The US needs a better society, not a more militaristic and brutal one. The it is already too late argument signals the end of everything America if allowed to propagate.


    Agree with you on US needing a better society. It is natural for a person or society to get lazy and sloppy when most things come easily. The proverbial trust fund brat comes to mind. The media, possibly seeking higher viewership seems to feed into this. A couple of ways to deal with this is to stop enabling disfunctional behaviour by giving these people a large platform and to stop giving people an unearned living.

    Mostly covered in former reply. An ordered society with good mental health treatment is in everyone's interests. Broken windows etc.

    Gangs like MS-13 and whatever can be handled by special laws and an effective policy with locals. Try and try again, the failure is in political eye gouging, not the FBI or other. But you need to know your enemy and Trump is not helping. I spoke to a Salvadorian and that made me find this https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/02/11/what-is-ms-13/ If clever about it such extreme things can be handled, time and pressure. For example I used to work as a civilian contractor for a UK police force. Their best friend was social welfare, they picked up half their on-the-run suspects at the dole office. The entrapment prize stuff in the US is cute but having to be at a specific place at a specific time works better.

    Anyway, I still a cold so rambling. The NRA is a private organisation with dodgy board election processes, financing and an agenda that is duplicitous. It is the perfect next for Wayne, the psychopath and cult leader who is pushing a white nationalist message, "European style" they say, I'd say similar to South African program and America away from harmony.
    As mentioned earlier, please support your statements.

    Lazy of you.

    Dangerous fools like AAA and Tsing Tao on one hand may make an argument for how things SHOULD be done, training over marketing & aggressive selling but ignore that the NRA is the effing exact opposite.
    AAA and Tsing Tao fairly consistently support their statements and many times provide their sources. I have not checked their sources, so I cannot vouch for that.

    I have found that directly facing one’s fears in an issue (or a situation) leads to clarity on the best way to proceed. You have not addressed the idea of guns being a viable method of self protection for vulnerable people. Do you fear this point? You sound like you got a pair, so how about addressing it here, point-blank?

    But he is an outlier extremist. The reason he is trying to be good and seem balanced is my shaming his earlier immature behaviors. I can't help it that you came in late and I am trying to stop a real unnecessary potential murder.

    Now.. I have lived in countries where nobody has guns and places where many have. No handguns and military guns are best by far. It fosters trust and a willingness by the group to tackle a psycho instead of a fuck you buddy, my own problems thing. There is no right answer as I will assume if you look at the stats of places were women carry guns, they get raped a lot anyway, possibly even more sometimes. If the defense evolves, the threat does, now girls get hit with drugs in their drinks earlier or tasered. I always told my daughter (hit-girl) to learn to physically defend herself and do the usual. If alone, call or appear to call hands free describing who is following her, where she is etc. And be ready to move fast. Not to hand to hand engage a man unless she has to obviously. She largely grew up in Australia with her mum so they did the de-arming thing with semi and handguns years back.

    She knows it is the boyfriend who is the main danger to her.


    * We would joke about another ranger who had a well fed family of hyena, just all HIV positive now from the quartered bodies of guys who had pissed him off. Obviously you don't want to feed one a whole body as they might start hunting human. This is where 'freedom' gets to eventually.

    Great scalping day today.
     
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    #36     Apr 10, 2018
  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    It's based on the House being taken over by Democrats next January. If that doesn't happen than it is unlikely he'll be impeached. If it does happen the, odds of impeachment go way up.
     
    #37     Apr 10, 2018
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'm not sure what you impeach him on, but ok so what. Details are a bother. Once he's impeached, then what?
     
    #38     Apr 10, 2018
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    I was talking to a guy last night in my neighborhood bar. I said if Trump gets convicted by the Senate we will have what's-his-name as President , and we might regret that. Then we'll have to deal with the "second coming" in the Oval Office. Pence (is that his name?) might just decide to speed up his own arrival at the Rapture with a couple fusion bombs. I suggested Pence would probably pardon Trump, a'la Gerry Ford. My buddy said he didn't think so. He thought Pence was too much of a straight shooter to pardon Il Duce. Although the idea of watching the next inauguration from behind bars on a jailhouse TV, you would think, should terrify any sane President who has survived the near certainty of financial ruin by laundering Russian Oligarch Money, it won't concern Trump. He thinks he's invincible -- one of the few illusory benefits from over the top narcissism, I suppose.
     
    #39     Apr 10, 2018

  10. Still dont think they would have numbers to impeach but also as someone has brought up, so far there is no definitive charge to draw the articles of impeachment. I think those that dislike him should put impeachment aside and focus on bigger issues within to address.
     
    #40     Apr 10, 2018