Trump Dossier

Discussion in 'Politics' started by heisenbern, Jul 23, 2017.

  1. piezoe

    piezoe

    This is no Bombshell. this is common knowledge.
     
    #11     Jul 27, 2017
  2. piezoe

    piezoe

    Oh bullshit. Trump did this because he thought it would appeal to his pussy, alt right, low information base. "..Prohibits efficient functioning of our armed forces". Have you lost your fucking mind? Since when have the armed forces been "efficient'? The U.S. armed forces are the embodiment of inefficiency. They give socialism a black eye! A few, ~15K, cross-dressers can't possibly have any effect one way or the other.
     
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    #12     Jul 27, 2017
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  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I don't expect you to view the situation in anything but a hyper-partisan light. You've expressed your view that Trump is the anti-christ about a zillion times over. As far as I'm concerned, you are incapable of providing anything resembling a balanced opinion on any political subject anymore.

    I'm sure you know even less about the armed forces than you do about economics. But just because the armed forced aren't operating at peak efficiency and have a plethora of operating problems doesn't mean allowing transgendered individuals into the military wouldn't create additional, massive logistical and operational nightmares for command - both in the field and at the Pentagon.

    You know jack shit about anything in the military absent what you read in propublica.

    I do, however, take a certain amount of satisfaction at seeing how unhinged you've become over this issue, further illustrating to me that the decision must have been the correct one if someone like you hates it so much.
     
    #13     Jul 28, 2017
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  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Doesn't this feel unamerican? Someone is willing to risk their life for this country and the country says no thanks.

    Trumps order doesn't kick out any currently enlisted transgendered so the military is screwed anyway if there is a war.

    The military spends 5x more on viagra than on transgendered services.

    It feels like this is a move to appease the religious right in his base. Or more nefariously to change the conversation from something more embarrassing for him.
     
    #14     Jul 28, 2017
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  5. Playing in a military band or being a military lawyer is not exactly risking your life. In any event, that is not the only qualification to be in the military. We actually do not need seriously disturbed people in positions of life and death authority. It undermines unit morale, it threatens the mission and it imposes ridiculous additional costs that we cannot afford.
     
    #15     Jul 28, 2017
  6. Talking about efficiency when is Trump going to bring back the 2000 plus Humvies he said were left behind in Iraq ?

    ISIS is turning US Humvees into Iraq's worst nightmare

    More than two-thirds of the Humvees the US supplied to Iraq to fight terrorists have ended up in the hands of Islamic State militants.

    And the Islamic State (aka ISIS, ISIL, and Daesh), has not wasted any time in converting those vehicles into one of its deadliest and most nightmarish tools: suicide car bombs.

    According to Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, ISIS controls about 2,300 armored US Humvees. Most of those vehicles were seized after ISIS overran Mosul in June 2014.
     
    #16     Jul 28, 2017
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Hard to say what the reasons are unless you've discussed it with the top brass. I know I haven't. I suspect you haven't either.

    If someone born blind and deaf wants to serve their country, it isn't unamerican to say "thank you, but we don't have a spot for you."

    The comment on viagra is fascinating, but irrelevant. And you can "feel like" the move is to appease someone, just as I can "feel like" it is probably more of a logistical decision, just like the whole discussion on gays in the military was a logistics issue. The difference between you and I is that I'm willing to consider that the decision might be based on a reason other than hate, whereas you assume right away that it's all about hate.

    Aren't you in the UK anyway?
     
    #17     Jul 28, 2017
  8. One thing that is obvious to me is that the people pushing this don't have the interests of the military first. Same with the women in combat activists.
     
    #18     Jul 28, 2017
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    This is decidedly untrue and I challenge you to find a single post of mine where I did that.** I have suggested that Trump is mentally deranged. I have said he has a serious personality/mental disorder. And I have said he is mentally unfit to serve as our President. I have also suggested that his real problem, from a legal standpoint, is likely to be associated with his companies financial transactions, especially those involving Russian Oligarch Money. I have suggested that he has very likely under- , mis- , or fruadulently reported profits from helping Russian Oligarchs to launder ill gotten gains. He has refused to release his tax returns for a reason, and this is why Mr. Mueller is naturally interested in them. These things I mention are only the tip of the iceberg. Donald Trump is a gangster who has been sued over 4000 times and is now skating on extremely thin ice.

    Good luck to you fools who can not see the obvious. What fools you are!
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    **N.B. It would be out of character for me to consider anyone the anti-Christ, as how can there be an anti-Christ without a Christ.
     
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    #19     Jul 28, 2017
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  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    From what I had read, the Pentagon is citing expense as the reason.
    I haven't read anything to say that the official reason is that they believe Transgenders are bad warriors. There is a very prominent transgender SEAL.

    This type of discussion has happened several times in our nations history. It started with the blacks. Then the women. Then the gays. I have never heard of it actually being an issue in battle. Why would it be any different with transgenders?

    I don't think it's about hate. I think it's about Trump appeasing the hateful elements of his base. That or he's throwing as many things to pivot the discussion away from Russia and healthcare. Between this and Sarmucci's rantings, he's succeeding.

    I live in the US and am a citizen.
     
    #20     Jul 29, 2017