Trump delivers again; bans immigration from 7 Muslim countries.

fhl · Jan 29, 2017

Tom B said:
Friendly Reminder: Obama Selected The List Of Muslim Countries in Trump’s Executive Order
Matt Vespa
1/29/2017 9:00:00 AM - Matt Vespa
As the Left and some Republicans lose their minds over President Donald J. Trump’s executive order on immigration, let’s not forget that the list of concerned countries that the Trump administration outlined in the order is based on the one signed into law by the former Obama administration. So, it looks like the Obama White House set the groundwork (via Mic News):

According to the draft copy of Trump's executive order, the countries whose citizens are barred entirely from entering the United States is based on a bill that Obama signed into law in December 2015.

Obama signed the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act as part of an omnibus spending bill. The legislation restricted access to the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens from 38 countries who are visiting the United States for less than 90 days to enter without a visa.

Though outside groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union and NIAC Action — the sister organization of the National Iranian American Council — opposed the act, the bipartisan bill passed through Congress with little pushback.

At the initial signing of the restrictions, foreigners who would normally be deemed eligible for a visa waiver were denied if they had visited Iran, Syria, Sudan or Iraq in the past five years or held dual citizenship from one of those countries.

In February 2016, the Obama administration added Libya, Somali and Yemen to the list of countries one could not have visited — but allowed dual citizens of those countries who had not traveled there access to the Visa Waiver Program. Dual citizens of Syria, Sudan, Iraq and Iran are still ineligible, however.

So, in a nutshell, Obama restricted visa waivers for those seven Muslim-majority countries — Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Libya and Yemen — and now, Trump is looking to bar immigration and visitors from the same list of countries.

Yet, I don’t remember the Left freaking out over this. I certainly don’t remember them going indiscriminately insane when the Obama White House stopped processing Iraqi visas for six months when—surprise! —Al-Qaeda operatives feigned refugee status to get relocated to Bowling Green, Kentucky. And yes, some of the applicants worked as intelligence assets and interpreters for the U.S. military, according to ABC News. But remember, that was when a Democrat was in the Oval Office, so it was okay back then.

Here’s the text of the order.

Via The Atlantic this is what it will and will not do. Most importantly, the publication adds that this technically isn’t a Muslim ban, as people from Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim country, can still visit the country:

Who is affected?

For 120 days, the order bars the entry of any refugee who is awaiting resettlement in the U.S. It also prohibits all Syrian refugees from entering the U.S. until further notice. Additionally, it bans the citizens of seven countries—Iraq, Iran, Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Libya, and Yemen—from entering the U.S. on any visa category. This appears to include those individuals who are permanent residents of the U.S. (green-card holders) who may have been traveling overseas to visit family or for work—though their applications will be considered on a case-by-case basis, a senior administration official said Saturday.

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Is this a Muslim ban?

Technically no. The ban includes seven majority Muslim countries, but by no means are these states the most populous Muslim countries, nor are they among the top sources of Muslim immigration to the U.S., nor have they produced terrorists in the same numbers as other Muslim countries not on the list.

So, it’s not really a Muslim ban and the nations that Trump listed are the ones that were drafted by Obama.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...led-muslim-ban-are-ones-obama-choose-n2278021
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Oh, goodness. You just shot to hell every argument fred foresight has been trying to sell.

He has nothing left. Assuming we don't count "Trump is a Nazi"!

CaptainObvious · Jan 29, 2017

Frederick Foresight said:
So you're against the Godless and the "Godfull." Where is that, exactly?
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I'm against caring about political opinions from people who don't pay for the privilege. I'm against appeasing the PC crowd for the sake of expediency and taking the easy path rather than making the difficult decisions. I'm against pretending that this decision will somehow make radical Islam crazier than they already are. I'm against trying to be all things to all people. Situations change and how things work must change with them. As a "progressive" I would think you'd understand that, unless of course you, like the idiot alt right only wants change when it suits your agenda. They can take that statue of liberty and dynamite the fucking thing. It's a new world.

fhl · Jan 29, 2017

achilles28 · Jan 29, 2017

Tom B said:
Friendly Reminder: Obama Selected The List Of Muslim Countries in Trump’s Executive Order
Matt Vespa
1/29/2017 9:00:00 AM - Matt Vespa
As the Left and some Republicans lose their minds over President Donald J. Trump’s executive order on immigration, let’s not forget that the list of concerned countries that the Trump administration outlined in the order is based on the one signed into law by the former Obama administration. So, it looks like the Obama White House set the groundwork (via Mic News):

According to the draft copy of Trump's executive order, the countries whose citizens are barred entirely from entering the United States is based on a bill that Obama signed into law in December 2015.

Obama signed the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act as part of an omnibus spending bill. The legislation restricted access to the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens from 38 countries who are visiting the United States for less than 90 days to enter without a visa.

Though outside groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union and NIAC Action — the sister organization of the National Iranian American Council — opposed the act, the bipartisan bill passed through Congress with little pushback.

At the initial signing of the restrictions, foreigners who would normally be deemed eligible for a visa waiver were denied if they had visited Iran, Syria, Sudan or Iraq in the past five years or held dual citizenship from one of those countries.

In February 2016, the Obama administration added Libya, Somali and Yemen to the list of countries one could not have visited — but allowed dual citizens of those countries who had not traveled there access to the Visa Waiver Program. Dual citizens of Syria, Sudan, Iraq and Iran are still ineligible, however.

So, in a nutshell, Obama restricted visa waivers for those seven Muslim-majority countries — Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Libya and Yemen — and now, Trump is looking to bar immigration and visitors from the same list of countries.

Yet, I don’t remember the Left freaking out over this. I certainly don’t remember them going indiscriminately insane when the Obama White House stopped processing Iraqi visas for six months when—surprise! —Al-Qaeda operatives feigned refugee status to get relocated to Bowling Green, Kentucky. And yes, some of the applicants worked as intelligence assets and interpreters for the U.S. military, according to ABC News. But remember, that was when a Democrat was in the Oval Office, so it was okay back then.

Here’s the text of the order.

Via The Atlantic this is what it will and will not do. Most importantly, the publication adds that this technically isn’t a Muslim ban, as people from Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim country, can still visit the country:

Who is affected?

For 120 days, the order bars the entry of any refugee who is awaiting resettlement in the U.S. It also prohibits all Syrian refugees from entering the U.S. until further notice. Additionally, it bans the citizens of seven countries—Iraq, Iran, Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Libya, and Yemen—from entering the U.S. on any visa category. This appears to include those individuals who are permanent residents of the U.S. (green-card holders) who may have been traveling overseas to visit family or for work—though their applications will be considered on a case-by-case basis, a senior administration official said Saturday.

[…]

Is this a Muslim ban?

Technically no. The ban includes seven majority Muslim countries, but by no means are these states the most populous Muslim countries, nor are they among the top sources of Muslim immigration to the U.S., nor have they produced terrorists in the same numbers as other Muslim countries not on the list.

So, it’s not really a Muslim ban and the nations that Trump listed are the ones that were drafted by Obama.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...led-muslim-ban-are-ones-obama-choose-n2278021
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Hey Freddy. Can you address this ?

Why are you being such a hypocrite?

Please show us ur posts where u condemned obama for restricting visas to those same seven countries.

Guess what. U didn't. Cause like most progressives ur morals only kick in with a republican president

Thats why nobody takes the progressive word seriously anymore = Just a bunch of hypocritical drama cucks

fhl · Jan 29, 2017

Zzzz1 · Jan 29, 2017

Reasonable and intelligent people don't condemn a whole culture because of individual criminals. Same as Japan won't ban all American soldiers just because a few raped Japanese girls. And if Trump has to ban a whole nation why not Saudi Arabia? Most Americans were killed my Saudi terrorists. Hypocrisy?

achilles28 said:
Nice to see trump delivering.

This was his platform. He won by nearly 100 electoral votes. And the entire world was against him. Americans want this.

Too bad for the small minority. Winners and losers for every policy decision.

Freddy and Zzzz couldn't give a fuck when a bus load of Americans get killed by a Muslim refugee. Where is their outrage against immigration policies then? It's only when foreigners are given the gears do they actually cAre.

Liberals are all the same. They rather protect foreigners at the expense of Americans. Then protect Americans at the expense of foreigners.

Americans are done with that
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Zzzz1 · Jan 29, 2017

I thought he is accusing globalism for all the ills of this world. But I guess hypocrisy is not a weakness anymore under Trump

Frederick Foresight said:
I thought we were talking about America. Since when have you become a globalist?

Is this also cherry-picked:

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Cuddles · Jan 29, 2017

well, on the plus side, we may get to impeach this piece of trash sooner than later if he keeps it up.

MoneyMatthew · Jan 29, 2017

Zzzz1 said:
I feel ashamed to call myself Christian, the same religion Trump is claiming to believe in.
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No offense my friend but wouldn't it be refreshing if a Muslim said something similar after an Islamic terrorist attack? You are ready to question your own religion based on the actions of one person. Non-violent actions I might add. Were you this vocal as Obama was bombing the Middle East?

Do you have any posts here on Elite Trader criticizing Obama for bombing the Middle East and killing people as well as civilian casualties with drone bombing?

To summarize your logic here:

Trump's Travel Restrictions are a GREATER EVIL THAN Obama's Bombings with Civilian Casualties.

Trump's Travel Restrictions=Post about being ashamed to call yourself Christian.

Obama's Bombings and Civilian Casualties=No Posts publicly anywhere/No Comment/No Criticism.

Do you have a single post in your entire history of posts where you are critical of Obama? Please stop pretending to be a logical and objective person here in P&R.

AAAintheBeltway · Jan 29, 2017