Trump delivers again; bans immigration from 7 Muslim countries.

TreeFrogTrader · Jan 22, 2020

Here4money said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-...even-countries-to-travel-ban-list-11579638341

Trump Administration Plans to Expand Travel Restrictions to Seven Countries
Nations being considered for new rules: Belarus, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar, Nigeria, Sudan, Tanzania

WASHINGTON—The Trump administration plans to add seven countries to a group of nations subject to travel restrictions, including Nigeria, Africa’s most populous country, along with others in Africa and Asia, according to administration officials who have seen the list.

The new restrictions would apply to travelers and immigrants from Belarus, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar, Nigeria, Sudan and Tanzania. The countries wouldn’t necessarily face blanket bans on travel to the U.S., but could have restrictions placed on specific types of visas, such as business or visitor visas, administration officials said.

Some countries could be banned from participating in the diversity visa lottery program, which awards green cards to people in countries with low levels of immigration to the U.S. President Trump has called for an end to that program, saying it lets undesirable people into the U.S., and he has proposed reorienting the existing visa system toward skilled workers instead.

The officials said the list isn’t final, and on Tuesday the White House was still debating whether to include one or two of the countries.

The Department of Homeland Security didn’t respond to request for comment. The State Department declined to comment.

The administration plans to roll out its expanded travel restrictions on Monday, marking the three-year anniversary of the initial travel ban Mr. Trump signed on his seventh day in office, sparking controversy at the beginning of his term.

The administration has said its policy restricting travel is necessary to prevent potential acts of terrorism, as countries on the list don’t adequately vet their travelers to the U.S.

The first order, which banned travel to the U.S. by most residents of seven majority-Muslim countries, was struck down by a federal court and withdrawn. A second iteration of the ban, issued in March 2017, was also struck down by a federal judge who said it still amounted to religious discrimination against Muslims.

A third version of the policy, issued in September 2017, was upheld by a divided Supreme Court in a 5-4 ruling in June 2018 on the grounds that federal law gives the president broad authority to suspend entry to the U.S.

Those current restrictions blocked travel by individuals from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen and North Korea, and by political officials from Venezuela. The administration briefly included Chad on the ban list, but removed the country in April 2018.

Unlike the initial list, most of the new countries don’t have majority-Muslim populations. Several of them, however, have had relatively higher rates of their citizens overstaying visas in the U.S., according to DHS data.

In the 2018 fiscal year, 24% of Eritreans on business or visitor visas overstayed their permits, along with 15% of Nigerians and 12% of people from Sudan. Those compared with a total overstay rate in the category of 1.9%.

The names of the seven countries was first reported by Politico.

Immigrant-rights groups criticized the planned expansion of the policy to new countries. “Tens of thousands of American families are already hurting and separated because of this bigoted and cruel ban. Doubling down on it won’t make any of us safer,” said Farhana Khera, president of Muslim Advocates, a nonprofit civil-rights organization.

The move to expand its travel restrictions signals the Trump administration’s intent to ramp up several hard-line immigration policies ahead of the 2020 election, which Mr. Trump’s advisers believe will play in his favor.

The Trump administration this month mounted a plaque in Yuma, Ariz., commemorating the construction of 100 miles of bollard fencing along the southern border. The administration has also ramped up rhetoric against Democratic-led cities and states that have adopted “sanctuary” policies, and administration officials are considering new restrictions on them.

A federal judge this month blocked an executive order the president had signed giving state and local governments the ability to reject placement of refugees in their communities.

The American Civil Liberties Union, which challenged all three versions of Mr. Trump’s travel ban, declined to comment on whether it would bring new litigation against the expansion.
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Mostly shit-hole countries.

vanzandt · Jan 22, 2020

TreeFrogTrader said:
Mostly shit-hole countries.
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Here4money said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-...even-countries-to-travel-ban-list-11579638341

Trump Administration Plans to Expand Travel Restrictions to Seven Countries
Nations being considered for new rules: Belarus, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar, Nigeria, Sudan, Tanzania

WASHINGTON—The Trump administration plans to add seven countries to a group of nations subject to travel restrictions, including Nigeria, Africa’s most populous country, along with others in Africa and Asia, according to administration officials who have seen the list.

The new restrictions would apply to travelers and immigrants from Belarus, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar, Nigeria, Sudan and Tanzania. The countries wouldn’t necessarily face blanket bans on travel to the U.S., but could have restrictions placed on specific types of visas, such as business or visitor visas, administration officials said.

Some countries could be banned from participating in the diversity visa lottery program, which awards green cards to people in countries with low levels of immigration to the U.S. President Trump has called for an end to that program, saying it lets undesirable people into the U.S., and he has proposed reorienting the existing visa system toward skilled workers instead.

The officials said the list isn’t final, and on Tuesday the White House was still debating whether to include one or two of the countries.

The Department of Homeland Security didn’t respond to request for comment. The State Department declined to comment.

The administration plans to roll out its expanded travel restrictions on Monday, marking the three-year anniversary of the initial travel ban Mr. Trump signed on his seventh day in office, sparking controversy at the beginning of his term.

The administration has said its policy restricting travel is necessary to prevent potential acts of terrorism, as countries on the list don’t adequately vet their travelers to the U.S.

The first order, which banned travel to the U.S. by most residents of seven majority-Muslim countries, was struck down by a federal court and withdrawn. A second iteration of the ban, issued in March 2017, was also struck down by a federal judge who said it still amounted to religious discrimination against Muslims.

A third version of the policy, issued in September 2017, was upheld by a divided Supreme Court in a 5-4 ruling in June 2018 on the grounds that federal law gives the president broad authority to suspend entry to the U.S.

Those current restrictions blocked travel by individuals from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen and North Korea, and by political officials from Venezuela. The administration briefly included Chad on the ban list, but removed the country in April 2018.

Unlike the initial list, most of the new countries don’t have majority-Muslim populations. Several of them, however, have had relatively higher rates of their citizens overstaying visas in the U.S., according to DHS data.

In the 2018 fiscal year, 24% of Eritreans on business or visitor visas overstayed their permits, along with 15% of Nigerians and 12% of people from Sudan. Those compared with a total overstay rate in the category of 1.9%.

The names of the seven countries was first reported by Politico.

Immigrant-rights groups criticized the planned expansion of the policy to new countries. “Tens of thousands of American families are already hurting and separated because of this bigoted and cruel ban. Doubling down on it won’t make any of us safer,” said Farhana Khera, president of Muslim Advocates, a nonprofit civil-rights organization.

The move to expand its travel restrictions signals the Trump administration’s intent to ramp up several hard-line immigration policies ahead of the 2020 election, which Mr. Trump’s advisers believe will play in his favor.

The Trump administration this month mounted a plaque in Yuma, Ariz., commemorating the construction of 100 miles of bollard fencing along the southern border. The administration has also ramped up rhetoric against Democratic-led cities and states that have adopted “sanctuary” policies, and administration officials are considering new restrictions on them.

A federal judge this month blocked an executive order the president had signed giving state and local governments the ability to reject placement of refugees in their communities.

The American Civil Liberties Union, which challenged all three versions of Mr. Trump’s travel ban, declined to comment on whether it would bring new litigation against the expansion.

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maga!

Cuddles · Jan 26, 2020

ban expanded to certain females:

#NoFatChicks

Cuddles · Oct 19, 2020

Shit, who knew it was that easy? You listening Iran?

vanzandt · Oct 19, 2020

Here4money said:
Shit, who knew it was that easy? You listening Iran?

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Tips for Avoiding Nigerian Letter Scam

The Nigerian letter scam offers the recipient the “opportunity” to share in a percentage of millions of dollars that the author—a self-proclaimed government official—is trying to transfer illegally out of Nigeria.
Payment of taxes, bribes to government officials, and legal fees are often described in great detail with the promise that all expenses will be reimbursed as soon as the funds are spirited out of Nigeria. In actuality, the millions of dollars do not exist, and the victim eventually ends up with nothing but loss.

Be skeptical of individuals representing themselves as Nigerian or foreign government officials asking for your help in placing large sums of money in overseas bank accounts.

Do not believe the promise of large sums of money for your cooperation.

Guard your account information carefully.

El OchoCinco · Oct 19, 2020

Read the fine print:

As a condition of removal from the list, Sudan has agreed to pay $335 million to compensate victims of Qaeda attacks on United States Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 and the Navy destroyer Cole in 2000. The money will be held in an escrow account until Congress agrees to give Sudan immunity for other terrorist attacks.

Congress might have a different opinion of for Sudan to buy immunity...because that is all that is happening..Sudan is buying immunity to get back into good graces.

Also this:
Mr. Pompeo told Mr. Hamdok that his country had to recognize Israel immediately if longstanding negotiations over Sudan’s removal from the American terrorism list were to succeed, said a senior Sudanese official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the talks.

I am doubtful Sudan wants to go against all of its neighbors and sell out to the Great Satan that easily....

I predict this will face a lot more obstacles than everyone thinks.

Cuddles · Aug 21, 2021

gwb-trading said:
Who in the U.S. would ever want to go to Iran?

(Assuming they don't have family there.)
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gwb-trading said:
Good luck with their suits (not)...

2 Iraqis file lawsuit after being detained in NY due to travel ban
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/polit...g-detained-in-ny-due-to-travel-ban/index.html
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gwb-trading said:
Let me provide my thoughts on President Trump's executive order on a immigration ban from these 7 countries.

First let me say at its core, the order is constitutional and legal. The ability of the President to issue orders banning immigration on a temporary basis from particular countries or particular groups of individuals has consistently been held up in court. In fact all 5 previous Presidents have issued similar immigration executive orders. These type of Presidential actions have been performed as far back as the 1830s and have always been supported in court decisions.

Now let me discuss the problems I see with the executive order from President Trump. First the banning of Green Card holders was over-reach (it appears to have been rescinded). The order does not address people with dual citizenship (e.g. what about dual Canadian/Iranian citizens?). Also people in transit with valid Visa's in-hand should have been admitted.

In my opinion the implementation of the policy was very poor. No guidelines were handed to agencies prior the announcement. There should have been clear guidelines prepared and issued prior the "start date". Also all the airlines, embassies and foreign governments were caught unprepared. The Executive Order should have had a "start date" about a week after the announcement in terms of banning incoming travelers with valid Visas, but stopped issuing new Visas immediately. The concept that terrorists from these countries would have rushed to come to the U.S. is not true (especially since most would not have Visas on the announcement date) - most of those trapped abroad are Visa holders who were actually in the U.S. already and then were abroad visiting family etc.

Now some have questioned "why this list of 7 countries and not others where the 9/11 terrorists came from?" As noted by former President Obama these 7 countries are high risk because they do not vet and provide information on the travelers they send abroad. There are international standards for sharing information regarding people on flights that most countries adhere to. However these 7 countries do not share information - due to two reasons. Some of these countries (e.g. Syria) are war torn entities with no effective functioning central government. Others such as Iran simply refuse to cooperate and properly share information.

I will note that countries such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan fully cooperate and share information via standard computer systems about their citizens traveling on airlines. This is why these countries are not on the high risk list or part of this temporary travel ban.
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gwb-trading said:
Actually this court ruling is likely to be overturned pretty quickly by the next level of courts.
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gwb-trading said:
Actually we should start a pool on how many hours until this judge's ruling will be overturned.

Even CNN is stating it is not likely to hold.
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gwb-trading said:
True.

However I give this particular ruling about 50 hours until it is set aside and that is only due to it being a weekend.
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gwb-trading said:
I never saw you or anyone else enter their estimate in days or hours.

This will now be appealed to the Supreme Court. We will see how it turns out.
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gwb-trading said:
I will admit that I was surprised there was no ruling on Monday morning.

However you never put in an estimate so you are not in the game.
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Posts aging like raw milk GWB. Oh, and:

gwb-trading · Aug 21, 2021

Cuddles said:
Posts aging like raw milk GWB. Oh, and:

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So a 2018 article showing the travel ban was quickly upheld — what are you quibbling about.

Cuddles · Aug 21, 2021

gwb-trading said:
So a 2018 article showing the travel ban was quickly upheld — what are you quibbling about.
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oops, posting too early. Yes travel ban found constitutional after much rewording

Mercor · Aug 21, 2021

gwb-trading said:
So a 2018 article showing the travel ban was quickly upheld — what are you quibbling about.
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Twilight Zone
Cruddles is stuck in a Trump vortex loop
When politics is about hate and not ideas ..it happens

I still see many who are still stuck in the Sarah Palin vortex loop....A article written about her in a newspaper ,the letters are all about her seeing Russia from her house...its been over 12 years