Trump delivers again; bans immigration from 7 Muslim countries.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Greenie, Jan 28, 2017.

  1. stu


    Any judge is too politicized when their judgements don't fit with your politics. When they do, they are always prudent and judicious.

    Due process, checks and balances.

    When your argument goes to the point of suggesting North Korea might not be as bad or as dangerous, then you really don't have an argument.
    #391     Feb 6, 2017
  2. Man is always able to make mistakes.

    I was told the file of a closed case must be reviewed internally by the judge's superiors, even from a chief judge. When any obvious mistake is found, the case will be automatically re-opened for a fair trial, without even any external request/asking.
    #392     Feb 6, 2017
  3. Zzzz1


    I guess you officially lost that bet. Ready to concede defeat on this one?

    #393     Feb 9, 2017
  4. I never saw you or anyone else enter their estimate in days or hours.

    This will now be appealed to the Supreme Court. We will see how it turns out.
    #394     Feb 9, 2017
  5. Zzzz1


    So what? You dared to put a number on it and I responded "game on". You cannot admit you were wrong on that one?

    #395     Feb 9, 2017
  6. I will admit that I was surprised there was no ruling on Monday morning.

    However you never put in an estimate so you are not in the game.
    #396     Feb 9, 2017
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  7. fhl



    #397     Feb 9, 2017
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  8. fhl


    We're just going to keep in mind this new concept the left has invented that you can look at a presidents campaign statements, or the statements of his surrogates, to determine the constitutionality of a proposed law or exec order.

    What this means is that there will be no gun control laws. Or exec orders. Because it's not going to be hard to find out the 'real motive' for gun control from someone like killary's campaign statements. Or her surrogates. Every effort to control guns has the 'real motive' of gun confiscation.

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Shoulda thought about that lefties before you invented this new principal of resist by any means necessary.
    #398     May 7, 2017
  9. fhl


    They gave us 'common sense gun control laws' and the courts said it was constitutional. Even though there's a right to bear arms.

    So what we need now are 'common sense muslim controls'. They must be considered constitutional, too. Same thing.
    #399     May 7, 2017
  10. Here4money


    Trump Administration Plans to Expand Travel Restrictions to Seven Countries
    Nations being considered for new rules: Belarus, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar, Nigeria, Sudan, Tanzania

    WASHINGTON—The Trump administration plans to add seven countries to a group of nations subject to travel restrictions, including Nigeria, Africa’s most populous country, along with others in Africa and Asia, according to administration officials who have seen the list.

    The new restrictions would apply to travelers and immigrants from Belarus, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar, Nigeria, Sudan and Tanzania. The countries wouldn’t necessarily face blanket bans on travel to the U.S., but could have restrictions placed on specific types of visas, such as business or visitor visas, administration officials said.

    Some countries could be banned from participating in the diversity visa lottery program, which awards green cards to people in countries with low levels of immigration to the U.S. President Trump has called for an end to that program, saying it lets undesirable people into the U.S., and he has proposed reorienting the existing visa system toward skilled workers instead.

    The officials said the list isn’t final, and on Tuesday the White House was still debating whether to include one or two of the countries.

    The Department of Homeland Security didn’t respond to request for comment. The State Department declined to comment.

    The administration plans to roll out its expanded travel restrictions on Monday, marking the three-year anniversary of the initial travel ban Mr. Trump signed on his seventh day in office, sparking controversy at the beginning of his term.

    The administration has said its policy restricting travel is necessary to prevent potential acts of terrorism, as countries on the list don’t adequately vet their travelers to the U.S.

    The first order, which banned travel to the U.S. by most residents of seven majority-Muslim countries, was struck down by a federal court and withdrawn. A second iteration of the ban, issued in March 2017, was also struck down by a federal judge who said it still amounted to religious discrimination against Muslims.

    A third version of the policy, issued in September 2017, was upheld by a divided Supreme Court in a 5-4 ruling in June 2018 on the grounds that federal law gives the president broad authority to suspend entry to the U.S.

    Those current restrictions blocked travel by individuals from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen and North Korea, and by political officials from Venezuela. The administration briefly included Chad on the ban list, but removed the country in April 2018.

    Unlike the initial list, most of the new countries don’t have majority-Muslim populations. Several of them, however, have had relatively higher rates of their citizens overstaying visas in the U.S., according to DHS data.

    In the 2018 fiscal year, 24% of Eritreans on business or visitor visas overstayed their permits, along with 15% of Nigerians and 12% of people from Sudan. Those compared with a total overstay rate in the category of 1.9%.

    The names of the seven countries was first reported by Politico.

    Immigrant-rights groups criticized the planned expansion of the policy to new countries. “Tens of thousands of American families are already hurting and separated because of this bigoted and cruel ban. Doubling down on it won’t make any of us safer,” said Farhana Khera, president of Muslim Advocates, a nonprofit civil-rights organization.

    The move to expand its travel restrictions signals the Trump administration’s intent to ramp up several hard-line immigration policies ahead of the 2020 election, which Mr. Trump’s advisers believe will play in his favor.

    The Trump administration this month mounted a plaque in Yuma, Ariz., commemorating the construction of 100 miles of bollard fencing along the southern border. The administration has also ramped up rhetoric against Democratic-led cities and states that have adopted “sanctuary” policies, and administration officials are considering new restrictions on them.

    A federal judge this month blocked an executive order the president had signed giving state and local governments the ability to reject placement of refugees in their communities.

    The American Civil Liberties Union, which challenged all three versions of Mr. Trump’s travel ban, declined to comment on whether it would bring new litigation against the expansion.
    #400     Jan 22, 2020