Trump Calls Off Cold War II

Discussion in 'Politics' started by fan27, Jul 16, 2018.

  1. fan27

    fan27

    http://www.wnd.com/2018/07/trump-calls-off-cold-war-ii/

    By Patrick J. Buchanan

    Beginning his joint press conference with Vladimir Putin, President Trump declared that U.S. relations with Russia have “never been worse.”

    He then added pointedly, that just changed “about four hours ago.”

    It certainly did. With his remarks in Helsinki and at the NATO summit in Brussels, Trump has signaled a historic shift in U.S. foreign policy that may determine the future of this nation and the fate of his presidency.

    He has rejected the fundamental premises of American foreign policy since the end of the Cold War and blamed our wretched relations with Russia not on Vladimir Putin, but squarely on the U.S. establishment.

    In a tweet prior to the meeting, Trump indicted the elites of both parties: “Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!”

    Trump thereby repudiated the records and agendas of the neocons and their liberal interventionist allies, as well as the archipelago of War Party think tanks beavering away inside the Beltway.

    Looking back over the week, from Brussels to Britain to Helsinki, Trump’s message has been clear, consistent and startling.

    NATO is obsolete. European allies have freeloaded off U.S. defense while rolling up huge trade surpluses at our expense. Those days are over. Europeans are going to stop stealing our markets and start paying for their own defense.

    And there will be no Cold War II.

    We are not going to let Putin’s annexation of Crimea or aid to pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine prevent us from working on a rapprochement and a partnership with him, Trump is saying. We are going to negotiate arms treaties and talk out our differences as Ronald Reagan did with Mikhail Gorbachev.

    Helsinki showed that Trump meant what he said when he declared repeatedly, “Peace with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing.”

    On Syria, Trump indicated that he and Putin are working with Bibi Netanyahu, who wants all Iranian forces and Iran-backed militias kept far from the Golan Heights. As for U.S. troops in Syria, says Trump, they will be coming out after ISIS is crushed, and we are 98 percent there.

    That is another underlying message here: America is coming home from foreign wars and will be shedding foreign commitments.

    Both before and after the Trump-Putin meeting, the cable news coverage was as hostile and hateful toward the president as any this writer has ever seen. The media may not be the “enemy of the people” Trump says they are, but many are implacable enemies of this president.

    Some wanted Trump to emulate Nikita Khrushchev, who blew up the Paris summit in May 1960 over a failed U.S. intelligence operation – the U-2 spy plane shot down over the Urals just weeks earlier.

    Khrushchev had demanded that Ike apologize. Ike refused, and Khrushchev exploded. Some media seemed to be hoping for just such a confrontation.

    When Trump spoke of the “foolishness and stupidity” of the U.S. foreign policy establishment that contributed to this era of animosity in U.S.-Russia relations, what might he have had in mind?

    Was it the U.S. provocatively moving NATO into Russia’s front yard after the collapse of the USSR?

    Was it the U.S. invasion of Iraq to strip Saddam Hussein of weapons of mass destruction he did not have that plunged us into endless wars of the Middle East?

    Was it U.S. support of Syrian rebels determined to oust Bashar Assad, leading to ISIS intervention and a seven-year civil war with half a million dead, a war which Putin eventually entered to save his Syrian ally?

    Was it George W. Bush’s abrogation of Richard Nixon’s ABM treaty and drive for a missile defense that caused Putin to break out of the Reagan INF treaty and start deploying cruise missiles to counter it?

    Was it U.S. complicity in the Kiev coup that ousted the elected pro-Russian regime that caused Putin to seize Crimea to hold onto Russia’s Black Sea naval base at Sevastopol?

    Many Putin actions we condemn were reactions to what we did.

    Russia annexed Crimea bloodlessly. But did not the U.S. bomb Serbia for 78 days to force Belgrade to surrender her cradle province of Kosovo?

    How was that more moral than what Putin did in Crimea?

    If Russian military intelligence hacked into the emails of the DNC, exposing how they stuck it to Bernie Sanders, Trump says he did not collude in it. Is there, after two years, any proof that he did?

    Trump insists Russian meddling had no effect on the outcome in 2016 and he is not going to allow media obsession with Russiagate to interfere with establishing better relations.

    Former CIA Director John Brennan rages that, “Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki … was … treasonous. … He is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???”

    Well, as Patrick Henry said long ago, “If this be treason, make the most of it!”


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  2. destriero

    destriero

    Yeah Comrade, we'll remember you.
     
  3. Wait for Trump to call on the bipartisan Magnetski to be repealed by congress.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitsky_Act

    Putin has Trump compromised (probably loans/money laundering stuff) and he is now a traitor to the US.

    This was seen coming before the election. I wonder is he still under audit? :)
     
  4. fan27

    fan27

    I can't say one way or the other if Trump has been compromised. Sure, it's possible. If he has been, I would expect a lot more than a summit with Putin in which Putin was given nothing except for some good PR. It is also a possibility that Trump really believes or intelligence and political establishment have made very bad decisions post cold war. If it was the former, how come our intelligence agencies have not exposed it yet?
     
  5. Trump has been compromised. Putin stated what he wanted, the Magnetsky act instigators discredited.

    When you see him casually drop that the Magnetzky act should be repealed as a friendly gesture.. don't be too shocked. :)

    "The driving force behind the Magnitsky Act, London investor Bill Browder, tells Ali Velshi that the reason Russian President Vladimir Putin brought him up at today’s Helsinki press conference is because Putin is upset about what the Magnitsky Act is doing to his personal finances and business operations."

    http://time.com/5340545/bill-browder-vladimir-putin-magnitsky-act-donald-trump/

    Simple interview with Browder. I know MSNBC triggers a lot of guys on the right but this is pretty clear stuff. http://www.msnbc.com/ali-velshi/wat...rowder-reacts-to-putin-comments-1278690883997
     
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  6. Good1

    Good1

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...-agents-funneled-400-million-clinton-campaign

    "
    Vladimir Putin made a bombshell claim during Monday's joint press conference with President Trump in Helsinki, Finland, when the Russian President said some $400 million in illegally earned profits was funneled to the Clinton campaign by associates of American-born British financier Bill Browder - at one time the largest foreign portfolio investors in Russia. The scheme involved members of the U.S. intelligence community, said Putin, who he said "accompanied and guided these transactions."

    Browder made billions in Russia during the 90's. In December, a Moscow court sentenced Browder in absentia to nine years in prison for tax fraud, while he was also found guilty of tax evasion in a separate 2013 case. Putin accused Browder's associates of illegally earning over than $1.5 billion without paying Russian taxes, before sending $400 million to Clinton."
     
  7. fan27

    fan27

    That is quite the claim by Putin that $400 million went to Clinton with the aid of our intelligence community. Why would Browder give Clinton $400 million? Without actual proof, I don't believe this or that Trump has been compromised by Putin.
     
  8. Good1

    Good1

    Once a reciprocal agreement allows Mooooler to mool in Russia, and Russians to investigate in the US, this will be made more clear. Who else is willing to investigate it?
     
  9. He did not donate 400 million, Putin just makes shit up exactly like Trump.

    This is a whopper of astounding proportions but nothing new for Putin who has accused Browder of a long list of things, some so fantastical even Trump might balk at them

    Browder is responsible for the Magnetsky act version of which are hurting Putin in six countries.
     
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  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Putin must be believed, Trump commands it.
     
    #10     Jul 16, 2018