Trump and Pruitt, Making America Polluted Again

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Aug 25, 2017.

  1. Attack the messenger.

    Check.
     
    #11     Aug 25, 2017
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Post commentary from fake news sources. Check.
     
    #12     Aug 25, 2017
  3. Tell me what in those videos is is "fake"? Tell me the time index.
     
    #13     Aug 25, 2017
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The entire video --- beginning to end. Pure propaganda.

    Try posting information from mainstream news sources. Not commentary from extreme left outlets pushing an agenda devoid of facts.
     
    #14     Aug 25, 2017
  5. The entire videos? So if I say "everything you post is propaganda", how do we start breaking down what is right or wrong with the sources you site? How do we bridge the gap between Ad hominem attacks, and reasoning?

    How do you feel when someone says YOU are fucked in the head, and ignores the sources you are citing?
     
    #15     Aug 25, 2017
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    When I start posting stories sourced from Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck then you can say I'm F'ed in the head. Posting stuff from The Young Turks is the equivalent on the left. It is not news -- it is entertainment. Learn the difference.
     
    #16     Aug 25, 2017
  7. Glenn Beck and and Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones and Sean Hannity are performance artists and opinion propagandists <= I agree.

    TYT, while no question that they are left-leaning, deliver the news starting from a fact, then put their left-originating passion usually by following a chain of reasoning - although no question bias enters into it. They may or may not succeed, but that is their core belief: State a fact and follow lines of reasoning from it.

    There is no equivalence between the two "propagandists". However, I do understand your gag reaction to the perceived equivalence.
     
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    #17     Aug 25, 2017
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  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Krugman linked to the facts, you might have learned it if you actually read what he wrote. EPA's final analysis recommended a ban, there is no denying that.

    Secondly, Obama's actions were fact based, what a governor or the company says is irrelevant, they are only looking at their bottomline.
     
    #18     Aug 25, 2017
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Krugman did not link the facts... he just linked more propaganda pieces. I explained the basic facts. You can go read sources that provide a more complete factual view via a simple google search, or you can remain ignorant & simply pushing political talking points.

    The situation involving coal-fired power plants and air/water pollution is very much an issue in North Carolina -- including the spills of coal ash ponds into rivers by Duke Power. There is some excellent local media commentary in NC that can be found on the subject.
     
    #19     Aug 25, 2017
  10. Coal miners daughter "next door" to North Carolina primarying Joe Manchin.

     
    #20     Aug 25, 2017