Trump 2024

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Sep 1, 2021.

  1. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    he will go to prison.

    if he is not already there by then.

    and he knows this.

    that's why he freaks out every single day.
     
    #461     Mar 7, 2024
  2. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    don’t be so sure. He might still be going through courts in November.
     
    #462     Mar 7, 2024
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Those pending criminal cases are the primary reasons why Trump is running for President again...

    It gives Trump two weapons...he can ask the Supreme Court for "immunity" that dissolves all criminal cases against him while others around him go to prison because they do not get "immunity" for their involvement in the same crimes...

    OR

    He becomes President and then serves as a convicted felon...making America's legal system no better than any 3rd world country. On top of that, he has already threatened a few times that those convicted and in prison for crimes they did while faithfully supporting him...

    He stated he would PARDON them because they are patriots (cough).

    Yet, there's one more issue that I've been hammering for the past few months...a very large percentage of voters plan to either vote for a 3rd candidate or write-in a 3rd candidate in the November Presidential Elections.

    Trump can not win if that happens and it increases the chances for Biden to win but on a very low vote tally.

    Furthermore, don't forget about the possibility that Trump takes a plea deal in one of those criminal cases especially if he's convinced that Biden is so unpopular and can not win...

    Trump becomes overconfident that the plea deal will not hurt his approval ratings enough that a plea deal will not cause him to lose the November Presidential Elections. Yet, at the same time, he underestimates that 3rd party candidate or a write-in (e.g. Haley supporters are already sounding the alarm since her defeat that they will write her name in on the November ballot as a write-in)...

    At the same time, Biden is now advertising to Haley's supporters to join him in defeating Trump in the November Presidential Elections instead of risking the Supreme Court to determine who is President instead of the voters deciding who is President.

    Those are the same Republican faithful supporters of Haley that Trump has stated to kick Hale & her supporters out of the Republican caucus and he then kicks them on social media after Haley's defeat by taunting them instead of catering to them (kissing their asses) on the night of his Super Tuesday victory speech.

    Those RHINOs and traditional Republicans may hold the key to this 2024 U.S. Presidential Elections...I'm one of them. The others...
    This is why the above chaos created by Trump is pushing most voters to look for a 3rd political candidate because they're burnt out from all of Trump's chaos.
    • Rapist and Fraud from Civil Courts...soon to be a Convicted Felon from Criminal Courts
    That's too much bullshit from one person. A sane person can not continue enduring that bullshit, especially after the chaos of the Pandemic (Covid deaths, government shutdown, school closures...all started by the Trump administration).

    Only those with mental illness will vote for that creep.

    wrbtrader
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2024
    #463     Mar 7, 2024
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  4. Last of all, don't forget about the possibility that Trump takes a plea deal in one of those criminal cases especially if he's convinced that Biden is so unpopular and can not win...

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    Lol.....yeh , he is known to make last minute plea deals , then he will blame it all on Biden and say....
     
    #464     Mar 7, 2024
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  5. This.....
     
    #465     Mar 7, 2024
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I get some people voting Trump in 2016, I get them voting twice for him, but not voting for him the 1st time, seeing Trump for 4 yrs and saying "yeah, I want more of that" is just wild to me. Care to indulge my curiosity?
     
    #466     Mar 7, 2024
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Trump officially seizes Republican National Committee tomorrow, and all their sweet, sweet cash. I expect the RNC cash will not only be used to pay Trump's legal bills but funneled towards paying his civil judgements as well.

    Trump RNC 'purge' has some committee members nervous about party footing his legal bills
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/03/07/trump-rnc-purge/72856982007/

    Former President Donald Trump’s impending takeover of the Republican National Committee could give him access to a big new pile of cash at a time when he is beset by legal bills, making some committee members nervous.

    Limiting Trump's access to the RNC's coffers is a touchy subject, and an effort to pressure his team on spending restrictions failed. But it serves as another example of the pockets of Trump resistance that persist within the GOP.

    Trump pushed RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel to resign from the job after seven years, and wants his daughter-in-law Lara Trump and another loyalist, North Carolina Republican Party Chair Michael Whatley, to serve as co-chairs. Top Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita would be chief operating officer.

    RNC members are meeting in Houston on Friday to consider the leadership change
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    It’s not uncommon for the RNC to be tightly integrated with the campaign of the Republican presidential nominee, a title Trump clinched after Nikki Haley dropped out of the race Wednesday. But there are some unusual aspects of Trump’s campaign that continue to worry some Republicans.

    A top concern is Trump’s mounting legal bills, and whether he could try and get the party to pay for them. Some committee members supported a failed resolution that aimed at prohibiting the RNC from picking up Trump’s legal tab.

    The overhaul of RNC leadership also has critics.

    “I’ve been told by other people that it’s fairly common for a presidential candidate and the RNC to integrate but I feel right now what’s happening is not an integration, it’s something between a purge and a takeover and that’s a concern for me,” said RNC member and Vermont GOP Chair Paul Dame.

    Trump moves to put Lara Trump, other loyalists in key roles
    Trump is known to surround himself with family members: in business and in politics. One of the ways that Trump managed his first term at the White House was by appointing family to key roles, including daughter Ivanka Trump and son-in-law Jared Kushner.

    For Trump, it's the only way to guarantee the utmost loyalty.

    Having the party’s national organization dominated by one personality bothers Dame, who said he worries about what happens once Trump’s gone, and about the RNC taking on some Trump characteristics he finds troubling, such as vindictiveness.

    “One of my concerns is that Trump’s cooperation with the other Republicans has been very dependent on his perception of their loyalty to him and that’s an element if it makes its way into the RNC becomes very difficult,” he said.

    As for not paying Trump’s legal bills, that should be a “slam dunk,” Dame said.

    Dame said the RNC traditionally pays for a lot of things that help all Republican candidates, such as turning out “low propensity” voters, adding he believes that’s what most donors want. Paying for Trump’s legal bills only helps Trump, he said.

    Trump is facing 91 felony charges across four criminal cases, along with multiple civil lawsuits. His campaign and associated political committees already have spent tens of millions paying the lawyers defending Trump. He also was ordered to pay $83.3 million in a defamation case brought by the writer Jean Carroll, and $453.5 million including interest in a business fraud case.

    LaCivita has said repeatedly that RNC money won’t be used to pay Trump’s legal bills.

    "I've made it perfectly clear... we would not be paying legal bills," LaCivita said Tuesday at Trump's Super Tuesday election night party in Palm Beach.

    Some RNC members wanted the commitment in writing, though.

    Henry Barbour, the Republican national committeeman from Mississippi, sponsored the resolution prohibiting the RNC from paying a candidate’s legal bills. He said it would've helped reassure donors.

    “I suspect if people thought a contribution to the RNC was going to legal bills that have nothing to do with the 2024 cycle they might be less likely to contribute to the RNC,” Barbour said.

    RNC discussion of legal bills 'still very much alive'
    Barbour's resolution needed support from 10 states, each with two co-sponsors, to force a vote Friday but only obtained eight. It was non-binding. A formal rule change would need to be approved at the Republican National Convention in July.

    While the resolution failed, Barbour said "the discussion is still very much alive."

    “The RNC has one job and that’s to win elections," Barbour said, adding that paying a candidate's legal bills. “Has nothing to do with winning elections.”

    The concerns surrounding Trump’s RNC takeover are another sign of the discomfort his campaign has elicited in some corners of the party, as evinced by Nikki Haley drawing a significant slice of the GOP primary vote through Super Tuesday despite polls showing for months that Trump was almost certain to be the nominee.

    Trump’s campaign continues to give plenty of Republicans heartburn, and they registered their discontent with protest votes in primary after primary. Haley won two primaries - Vermont and the District of Columbia - and topped 30% of the vote in a number of other states. Some states are still counting votes from Super Tuesday.

    The majority of Republicans feel differently, though, and Trump's picks for RNC leadership are expected to easily win the election.

    Many Trump supporters are cheering on his RNC takeover. McDaniel has been under fire for years from GOP activists.

    Steve Bannon, a longtime Trump ally who served as his chief strategist in the White House, said on his podcast this week that Barbour's resolution was "spitting in President Trump's face."

    "This is another outrage at the RNC and we thought the whole thing was dealt with," Bannon said. "We gotta see the building purged... all the building's gotta be purged - 100% purged."

    Bill Palatucci, the Republican national committeeman from New Jersey, said he doesn’t have a problem with the nominee “putting their imprint on the committee.”

    “The important factor is senior staff, and Chris LaCivita in my experience is a pro and understands the role of the RNC in the presidential cycle,” Palatucci said in an email. “From there, it is the responsibility of the Executive Committee and the Budget Committee to insure that the spending is appropriate. “

    Stan Pate, a Trump supporter from Alabama who gave six figure contributions to the main super PAC supporting Trump, said that McDaniel’s departure will make him more likely to support the RNC, and he’s fine with his money being used to pay Trump’s legal bills.

    “I’m fixing to write him another big check quite frankly,” said Pate, a real estate developer and investor. “I can tell you this: If he don’t win we’re all in trouble so I’ve got an opportunity to hopefully have some impact in that.”
     
    #467     Mar 7, 2024
  8. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    I cast my vote for Trump in 2020, but it was not really vote for him, it was a vote against Dem party.
     
    #468     Mar 7, 2024
  9. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Just listened to an interesting idea. What if Hailey runs as independent?

    she will get about 10% of gop, another 20% of dems and who knows how many independents.

    Might be enough to win.
     
    #469     Mar 7, 2024
  10. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    is this YOUR vision of the future?:

     
    #470     Mar 7, 2024