True trading

Discussion in 'Journals' started by joe4422, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. joe4422

    joe4422

    Of course it's possible. That's what you call a top or a bottom, the market makes them all the time.
     
    #21     Oct 5, 2010
  2. joe4422

    joe4422

    Selling ES 1163, stop loss 1164, target 1148
     
    #22     Oct 6, 2010
  3. Bakinec

    Bakinec

    Don't you feel 1 point is too tight? Unless you're Nostradamus, picking tops and bottoms is not a profitable business. It's best to go with the flow. JMHO.
     
    #23     Oct 6, 2010
  4. joe4422

    joe4422

    If 1 point is too tight, then I don't see any reason in market timing. Sometimes I use 1 or 2 tick stops as well. On my first trade, all I needed was a 1 tick stop.


    If the market can't be timed within a point, then the market can't be timed at all.
     
    #24     Oct 6, 2010
  5. joe4422

    joe4422

    No fill on 1163. Cancelling trade.
     
    #25     Oct 6, 2010
  6. I don't understand your reasoning at all. Market turns can't be timed to a single point because that point does not exist yet in the present. The best you can hope for is to assign probability to a range of points, then as time and price intersect refine your possibilities and price points as it plays out.
     
    #26     Oct 6, 2010
  7. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    Sometimes you can get within a point of a turn. I called a profit target on a trade not long ago that turned out to be 1 tick from the day's pivot low, called almost 3 hours in advance of price getting there. There's a guy who was calling pivot points on ES Journal well in advance and very often they were a pt from the pivot. If you're risking 1 pt, but capturing large moves when you catch one right, I think the strategy can work over time.
     
    #27     Oct 6, 2010
  8. joe4422

    joe4422

    Well, if 1144 has a chance of being the top, then why should I use a large stop? Either it's going to be the top or it isn't. A few ticks of cushion are needed, but not more.
     
    #28     Oct 6, 2010
  9. Read the negative/arguments against joe's trading. This is why most traders fail.

    Certain traders (PA) can ignore this.

    There's more than 1 way to skin a cat
     
    #29     Oct 6, 2010
  10. Cycles
     
    #30     Oct 6, 2010