"True Proprietary Trading" Defined

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by spinoza, Sep 9, 2006.

  1. If anyone wants to see more than the basic abstracts, let me know.


    http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Archive/042001/Abstracts_new/Bright/Bright.html

    http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Archive/062001/Abstracts_new/bright/brightpro.html

    Here is a more detailed draft of the second article.

    http://www.stocktrading.com/protradingarticle5.htm

    And, btw...Almost all firms disallow overnight positions. They limit the securities you can trade, and they will force you out of positions when they like.

    That statement, when true about many small (mostly unlicensed) firms, negates nearly all the reason to trade professionally. Our traders carry $millions of positions home on a daily basis. Pretty hard to engage in M&A, pairs trading, etc. if you can't carry long term positions.

    As with most things, there are good firms, and those that engage in those kind of silly practices.

    (Read the 2nd and 3rd link for some more info).


    FWIW,

    Don
     
    #11     Sep 10, 2006
  2. "Prop firm as it's most often used on this site doesn't really refer to anything proprietary. It's just like you stated, the trader puts up money and gets leverage, good software and sometimes nice perks. Retail on steroids basically."



    Probably best to start an incubator hedge fund, rather than do prop/"Retail on steroids" route, if you really want to establish a track record. That way you have control, and avoid the blood suckers...
     
    #12     Sep 10, 2006
  3. Good read. Stuff like that is the reason I'd suggest your firm <i>only</i> to a serious new candidate, rather than what I became familiar with years ago.
     
    #13     Sep 10, 2006
  4. Thanks!! Always nice to hear some positive things on this board.

    All the best,

    Don
     
    #14     Sep 11, 2006
  5. nobody wanna give me an answer? from what i´ve read here so far, prop firms only offer trading stocks, what about futures and options trading? any prop firms in that business?
     
    #15     Sep 11, 2006
  6. Talk to Maverick at Vtrader in Chicago. You can search him on this site. I believe they offer all three to experienced traders.

    We offer futures and options, but only under very precise guidelines and experience levels. Stock trading is generally much easier, IMO.


    Don
     
    #16     Sep 11, 2006
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Don, did you just give me a plug??!!??!?!!?!?!
     
    #17     Sep 11, 2006
  8. Damn! Someone must have grabbed my keyboard while I was at lunch, LOL. Notice that I said "experienced" traders....as you told me, your guys have a lot of experience with futures and options.

    Don
     
    #18     Sep 11, 2006