True meaning of Thanksgiving is the triumph of Capitalism over the failure of Collectivism...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Scataphagos, Nov 26, 2015.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    Similarly, capitalism is great in theory but does not work in practice, because people are both greedy and unequal.

    Fortunately, we have and have nearly always had a mixed economy, which combines elements of both systems, perhaps the best of both.
     
    #21     Nov 28, 2015
  2. ipatent

    ipatent

    The dynamics of collectivism are no doubt different in a small community, with both the peer pressure to contribute and the bickering at perceived inequities more personal.
     
    #22     Nov 29, 2015
  3. Don't forget, people are also generous and compassionate.
     
    #23     Nov 29, 2015
  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    that's a good point. The Iroquois nation was communist. It worked for them until people with guns and smallpox arrived.
     
    #24     Nov 29, 2015
  5. it worked for those Iroquois in power in the tribe, communism never works for those outside the party
     
    #25     Nov 29, 2015
  6. globuli

    globuli

    Are you telling us that our country was founded by proto bosheviks?
     
    #26     Nov 29, 2015
  7. jem

    jem

    I just looked this up... having no previous knowledge. they may have had some common ownership of large areas of land, they also had individualism and a confederacy of nations.
    They seem to have a purposefully weak central govt. Apparently it is thought the founding fathers of the U.S. Rosseau and Locke (yes your Locke) borrowed a lot of ideas from them.

    I think they sound like today's libertarians and even seem to exhibit some of Plato's idea of benevolent philosophers kings not in it for themselves.

    Overall far from the communist/fascist models we see in the world today.

    I got some of the above from here..
    http://www.lightparty.com/Spirituality/Iroquois.html

     
    #27     Nov 29, 2015
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    Overall far from the capitalist/fascist models we see in the world today.
     
    #28     Nov 29, 2015
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    Who were not capitalists, either.
     
    #29     Nov 29, 2015
  10. And they were Christians

    and Jesus and his disciples were communists and preached communist ideals
     
    #30     Nov 29, 2015