Trial lawyers get a nice piece of the action.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by John_Wensink, Nov 1, 2009.

  1. For the love of the country, this bill needs to fail.

    Why don't you lefties cry about the trial lawyers and tax their gross profits?

    Pelosi Health Care Bill Blows a Kiss to Trial Lawyersby Capitol Confidential
    The health care bill recently unveiled by Speaker Nancy Pelosi is over 1,900 pages for a reason. It is much easier to dispense goodies to favored interest groups if they are surrounded by a lot of legislative legalese. For example, check out this juicy morsel to the trial lawyers (page 1431-1433 of the bill):

    Section 2531, entitled “Medical Liability Alternatives,” establishes an incentive program for states to adopt and implement alternatives to medical liability litigation. [But]…… a state is not eligible for the incentive payments if that state puts a law on the books that limits attorneys’ fees or imposes caps on damages.

    So, you can’t try to seek alternatives to lawsuits if you’ve actually done something to implement alternatives to lawsuits. Brilliant! The trial lawyers must be very happy today!
    While there is debate over the details, it is clear that medical malpractive lawsuits have some impact on driving health care costs higher. There are likely a number of procedures that are done simply as a defense against future possible litigation. Recall this from the Washington Post:

    “Lawmakers could save as much as $54 billion over the next decade by imposing an array of new limits on medical malpractice lawsuits, congressional budget analysts said today — a substantial sum that could help cover the cost of President Obama’s overhaul of the nation’s health system. New research shows that legal reforms would not only lower malpractice insurance premiums for medical providers, but would also spur providers to save money by ordering fewer tests and procedures aimed primarily at defending their decisions in court, Douglas Elmendorf, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, wrote in a letter to Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah).”

    Stay tuned. There are certainly many more terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad provisions in this massive bill
  2. If the democrats REALLY wanted to insure the 12 million people who cannot get or afford insurance, they could solve this problem at a much lower cost, without this huge bill. The OBJECTIVE of the democrats is to control another 1/6th of the economy.
  3. Ricter


    Don't lawyers pay income tax?
  4. Well, here's some wild & off the wall speculation: Lets see, a majority of Americans don't want this bill and 80% of them like the healthcare insurance they already have. At the same time most of them think it will cost them more if this bill gets passed and the level of care will suffer. And the bill is written to kill tort reform (I actually saw/heard Dem Alan Grayson from FL, who is big on auditing the Fed Reserve, try to tell people from his district that tort reform was somehow undesireable.) Medicare & Medicaid are examples of the usual govt cost overruns & fraud. - - - So given the level of distrust that many citizens feel toward all this, why would politicians work so hard to pass it, even cram it down our throats if we like it or not ? - - - Could it Possibly be that the criminals that run the country know that its all gonna come crashing down & they want to rob as much as possible while they can ? Is it just possible that they want to create as much leverage for controlling all us serfs when everything collapses ?

    If these speculations seem completely impossible- - just keep thinking/operating based on 'Happy days are here again' and 'the economy really is getting better.' I don't care what you think or do. - - -
  5. Trial lawyers are responsible for, at most, 1/2% of health care costs.

    Quit using red herring to defend the raping of America by big pharma, big doctors, big hospitals and big insurers.
  6. Hidden costs are all the extra testing Doctors do to cover themselves in case of litigation.
    Doctors will have cat scans, MRI's and many other test just to backup what they already know about a diagnosis.
  7. ALBANY — Gov. David Paterson warned Thursday that New York could lose $1 billion under the Obama administration's decision to cut executive pay at seven companies that received federal bailout money.

    "I'm not going to defend the people who run these companies," Paterson said. "They frittered a lot of money away in reckless schemes. But the reality is that New York just lost $1 billion."
  8. Ricter


    Two different groups.
  9. Ricter


    Is that supposed to imply that trial lawyers as a group contribute more money to the democratic party than to the republican party?
    #10     Nov 3, 2009