Treyvon Martin issue is starting to irritate the hell out of me

Discussion in 'Politics' started by IShopAtPublix, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. pspr

    pspr

    I here there is a nice business to be had there selling large screwdrivers and crowbars. :D

    When I was much younger, my date and I were going back to her house late one evening and we discovered someone had jimmied the back door open. We must have surprised them because we found an automotive ball joint separator laying on the ground near the door. I had never seen one before but it looked like a tool made especially for burglars for breaking and entering.

    http://www.google.com/products/cata...=X&ei=AEZyT-qcDbSA2QXOxa3nDg&ved=0CFQQ8wIwAA#
     
    #681     Mar 27, 2012
  2. "Last week on "Fox & Friends," Rivera stated that "I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin’s death as George Zimmerman was."

    Rivera later acknowledged that his own son was "ashamed" of him for stating that.

    Rivera insisted he was only trying to protect children. “I remain absolutely convinced of what I said about asking for trouble," he stated. "There’s trouble enough for minority boys and young men not to provoke mad responses from paranoid jerk offs."

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...gy-for-hoodie-remark-in-trayvon-martins-death


    ("mad responses from paranoid jerk offs.")
     
    #682     Mar 27, 2012
  3. This thread is a classic and is worth "necroing". Needless to say the Zimmerman trial is going to embarrass certain people. For me the whole thing is exactly what I imagined to be all along - a fraud.
     
    #683     Jun 28, 2013
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    You were fine until "insane". Now you're just part of one of the groups with their minds made up.
     
    #684     Jun 29, 2013
  5. pspr

    pspr

    Just like you, Rectum.

    The difference between you and rational people is that you will hang on to your belief even if new facts come to light proving you wrong.

    Rational people change their minds when new facts show they have been wrong.

    "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" ~ John Maynard Keynes
     
    #685     Jun 29, 2013
  6. an unnamed "prominent black conservative" had commented on "my 'very practical and potentially life-saving campaign urging black and Hispanic parents not to let their children go around wearing hoodies.'"

    Oh..the hoodie is the red flag in front of the bull.

    Oh yea, regarding the paranoid jerks, plenty of black paranoid jerk offs, ha! probably more paranoid black jerk offs than white ones.
     
    #686     Jun 29, 2013
  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    It is a shame to take the time and money to try this case.

    Sadly there are still vestiges of white racism in the nation, worse in the South or any areas with a large black population. Just as sad is the black racism against whites, which may be more prevalent than racism among whites and which is so terribly destructive of black youth. No matter the terrible injustices of the past, what is to be gained by looking for scapegoats rather than to one's self for one's plight, one's lot in life. And it seems Blacks and Hispanics don't get along well either. Such a shame!

    If we are going to share the same country we, for our own benefit, must be more accommodative and accepting. Let's move forward, let the past go. (Remember the past, regret it, even rail against it, but don't dwell on it. Let it go. Look to the future.)

    There is no cause for a murder indictment here. Sadly, a kid with his whole life ahead of him is dead. But we must stop looking for a villain. If their is a villain, it is our society. Racism should not be the issue in this specific case. In my opinion, though it is not immaterial under the law, it should be immaterial whether Zimmerman or Martin were racist in their views -- likely in fact both of them were. If you attack someone else physically, regardless of whether provoked, and one of you has a gun, there is a good chance that one or the other of you will get shot.

    We are not going to know for sure who initiated the physical confrontation -- Zimmerman says it was Martin, but there were no witnesses -- but we know that Martin severely beat Zimmerman and Zimmerman not Martin called 911 and was calling for help. That's enough for any reasonable person to conclude that there is no basis for a second degree murder charge here. The only conclusion possible is that this court case is politically motivated.

    Though no one is charged with a hate crime in the present case, I was opposed to the recently passed hate crimes legislation, because it is too difficult to get into the minds of offenders, too fraught with error. Crimes should be prosecuted based of objective criteria. All the hate crimes that may be prosecuted under a hate crimes law are already crimes under the law. That is sufficient.

    Instead of trying to do what is impossible to do fairly and objectively, let us spend our time working to improve race relations so that we will have fewer crimes in which race may play a role.
     
    #687     Jun 29, 2013
  8. jem

    jem

    I have said very little about this case.
    But from what i heard last night.
    That a cop said he saw zimmerman on the bottom shouting for help.

    How the hell can the D.A. even justify putting him in jeopardy.
    If those facts are true... this is another media driven travesty.

    The media in this country has become sick and dangerous.
     
    #688     Jun 29, 2013
  9. achilles28

    achilles28

    That's exactly it. Nail on the head.
     
    #689     Jun 29, 2013
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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...n-opening-statement-george-zimmerman/2451819/

    Guy pointed out that none of Zimmerman's blood or DNA was found on Trayvon's body, clothing, or under his nails. Zimmerman's gun also didn't have any of Trayvon's blood or DNA, he said.

    "It's physically impossible the way he explained it," Guy said, explaining Zimmerman's gun was "ready to go."

    Guy said medical personnel tried to save Trayvon who was found facedown with his hands on his chest. Photos of Trayvon will be shown to the jury.

    He said the jury will hear the 911 call and that the screaming stops instantly when the gun goes off.
     
    #690     Jun 29, 2013