Trendfollowers: When oh when are we going to start making some $$$?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Ash1972, Jun 15, 2010.

  1. this is funny shit
     
    #371     Jun 24, 2010
  2. Mav88

    Mav88

    ELITE TRADER C.S.I.

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    #372     Jun 24, 2010
  3. d08

    d08

    I trade some trending stuff. 2008 was great, 2009 was slightly red and this year has been pretty good (this month has been very green).
    I very much disagree what asiaprop said about 2009 being a good year for trend followers. Not everyone trades on daily charts and the intraday moves were choppy as hell (ugly charts). However if the OP is not making money this year, I sense problems - this market is very trending now. Mean reversal stuff has been pretty mediocre this year so far but I expect this to change. Also, thanks to ProfLogic we have some truly insightful posts, very useful.
    Oh, and my approach is systematic.
     
    #373     Jun 25, 2010
  4. Does someone need to slap a bitch, Rodney?

    Here's my walk-forward on my optimized values from April 8th, 2010 in <b><i>Tradestation Motherfucker!</b></i>


    \/ NQ Excel Results Walk Forward File
     
    #374     Aug 28, 2010
  5. \/ ES Excel Results Walk Forward File
     
    #375     Aug 28, 2010
  6. But wait, there's more. Tradestation data is total garbage compared to the actual results of a correctly computed constant volume bar chart <b> off E-signal data in Multicharts, hell yeah.</b>

    I can hear the russian hacker behind me say sell 30 contracts, and laugh when I trade against him by buying 1 tick lower as the exchange? Badass, right?








    I know, why does volume always have something to do with price?
     
    #376     Aug 28, 2010
  7. Portfolio Overview By Symbols

    Market Start Date End Date Net Profit # Trades
    ES #F 4/24/2008 10:53 8/5/2010 12:40 355100 44
    ES #F 3/18/2008 13:14 8/5/2010 12:40 1407180 19
    NG #F=1 2/8/2008 11:45 7/27/2010 22:43 500160 82
    YM #F 5/1/2008 12:10 7/27/2010 23:56 424720 115
    QM #F 5/6/2008 6:55 7/27/2010 23:47 2644935 139


    QM had an 85+% win percentage and a 50+ profit factor.


    Now, why is the value below so ironic?

    Portfolio Annual Rolling Period Analysis

    Period Net Profit % Gain Profit Factor # Trades Percent Profitable
    Today - 2010 893277.5 9.538103591 4.937875398 114 69.29824561
    2009 - 2010 2652542.5 34.87391851 6.621907603 286 74.47552448
    2008 - 2010 5258635 105.1727 6.853659487 419 72.79236277


    Yeah, looks like a great time to sell a system. You know? Going from 70% profits one year to less than 20% per year. Yep, I'd try to sell that system, too.

    Portfolio Annual Rolling Period Analysis

    Period Net Profit % Gain Profit Factor # Trades Percent Profitable
    Today - 2010 893277.5 9.538103591 4.937875398 114 69.29824561
    2009 - 2010 2652542.5 34.87391851 6.621907603 286 74.47552448
    2008 - 2010 5258635 105.1727 6.853659487 419 72.79236277
     
    #377     Aug 28, 2010
  8. Doesn't this add a spice of realism?


    52 ES #F 103 EntryLong Buy#1 7/15/2008 7:12:49 AM 1215.75 2 -21225 -17.45835904 1201035 24.0207 9925 8.163684968 -37875 -31.15360888
    104 ExitLong Short 10/13/2008 2:58:23 PM 1003.5 2
     
    #378     Aug 28, 2010
  9. Tell you, though, as a prospective CTA candidate, I really like this stat:

    Slippage Paid 29652.5 14755 14897.5
    Commission Paid 27550 13640 13910
     
    #379     Aug 28, 2010
  10. as was Mr. Schamp's system's performance for those time periods, but they never seemed too out of control with a max DD of 20%. It says 10% but that was by the time it happened and the absolute dollar amount of the drawdown equates to about $750,000 at risk on $5 million, 15% almost.
     
    #380     Aug 28, 2010