Trend Following-Trend Commandments

Discussion in 'Events' started by Trend Following, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. Ash1972

    Ash1972

    That's a key question. There is no conceptual difference between buying tail risk using options and trend following, but there is a practical one. The better TF funds seem to do ok during 'normal' years too, i.e. when there is no crash or commodities spike.

    Just buying tail risk will lose you money most of the time.
     
    #161     Jul 18, 2011
  2. It's always interesting the TF versus mean reversion argument... but why not both? Mean reversion works most of the time, gets slammed some of the time, trend following works some of the time and occasionally produces outsized returns. Trend following normally performs well when mean reversion doesn't and vice versa... so why not both? My experience is running mean reversion on stocks and bonds whilst trend following on commodity and currency futures works nicely, a lot smoother than one or the other...
     
    #162     Jul 18, 2011
  3. Trend Following

    Trend Following Sponsor

    Mean reversions guys seem to blow out spectacularly.
     
    #163     Jul 18, 2011
  4. EPrado

    EPrado

    Summer 2008.
     
    #164     Jul 18, 2011
  5. Ash1972

    Ash1972

    Modern trend following systems (e.g. Abraham) trade multiple subsystems, some of which are mean reverting and others break out based. This helps to reduce volatility.
     
    #165     Jul 18, 2011
  6. Makes sense
     
    #166     Jul 19, 2011
  7. Ray Dalio--- trend follower??

    surf:confused:
     
    #167     Jul 23, 2011
  8. Trend Following

    Trend Following Sponsor

    See his PDF? Interesting.
     
    #168     Jul 25, 2011
  9. I'm hearing the firm discussed earlier in the thread has a good July going on & has made up much of its 2011 loss.
     
    #169     Jul 25, 2011
  10. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Agree and I always wonder why some traders only use one system that's suitable for only one type of trading condition while knowing there are different types of trading conditions.

    Mark
     
    #170     Jul 25, 2011