David Goodboy aka Marketsurfer aka thisisnotsurfer aka Neiderhoffer and Anna's bitch. Is now added to ignore. The hack isn't financially or mentally capable of participating in a trade off. YourMaster is added to ignore as well. Simply because I'm tired of arguing with a mental midget. It's just wrong having a battle of wits with unarmed people. There are about 25 to 30 traders that get together each Summer at the house for a barbecue. We are all very profitable. If either of you want proof and at some point could grow up long enough to participate, come on by for the party. Until then . . . keep your thumbs solidly stuffed up your butts.
Man, this guy just never quits. Now, instead of producing just one succesful user of the method, I get invited to a BBQ but not untill after he uses personal attacks against Marketsurfer. Well, whatever, anyway, we go to the Hamptons for the summer not Ohio. Unreal. TINS PS niether one of you Chart Artists, rhetoric bullys will step up to the plate like this gentlemen does daily. http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2746880#post2746880 Let's see the claims in real time, just like this guy! It will NEVER happen, cause Chart Art is always in hindsight. really really sad! <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/01LfRjyw6FA&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/01LfRjyw6FA&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>
Thank you for indulging me. I simply felt that perhaps since you had invited this person to spent time with you and your friends, you would remember him and the impression he may have made with you. Most people know who I described because they are ware of his knowldegeable and thoroough contributions in ET vis a vis passing forward the PEP and its applications, PVT, SCT, and SSR. He posted a stock trading record for quite a while and he answered questions in a sllyabus format on SCT for two years. (the first year was the syllabus introduction) I don't have an interest in proving anythig to anyone. The trading apporach has reached a self sustaining critical mass and the IPATS is in good hands for the future. It is wonderful that a worldwide group meets regularly to share their interests, It is probably true that my health is taking a lot of my time these days and I am very unreliable for going places and doing things. I feel very comfortable to just be a local resource geographically or electronically. As I stated a whle back I had to learn to not care about people and their inabilities. For some reason most of my life the individual value that a person represents seemmed to demand that I support any possibility of that person's growth. This was an irrational orientation. People beat themselves up so badly that there is no chance that external efforts can support thier wellbeing. Money turns out to really affect how people reconstruct the past. I was unaware of your orientation to others and what their value may be to you. I don't value much of what you represent and say. You lack understanding of so many things. There is little chance you will work to gain understrandings. Foir those who wish to learn to trader or even those who have a passion for trading, a key element in the matter is your relationship to the markets. The markets are livings things and they have character and peronsality. The closest type of relationship, I believe is possible is the partnership. History shows us some of the magnificent and elegant partnerships that prevailed. Eahc had it emphasis and understandings. These well defined partnerships deserve attention since they are so instructive. As usual, there are many tangibles and intangibles. I like how business partnerships have their recitations and performance obligations. There is also a growth dynamic in partnerships whereby more and more is added through mutuality. I was lucky enough to grow up in an atmosphere of reason and trust and integrity. Caring and being responsible was always formost in the picture. Fortunately I got alll that a person could imagine coming my way as time passed. No struggles or tests, just the unfolding of good times. Being mature allowed challenges to come into my life. I accepted them and profited by becominga problem solver. What I liked most about the markets was the resourse thay have always been. I don't see that changing. The offer is always there and it is so well defined. Markes only come into view gradually and it is up to the observer to do his job to be the best he can to make the observations. Most people you meet are ignorant simply because the market is not in their environment and they have no connection to the markets. If markets enter the picture, the person begins to construct the present with markets included. Science explains this mental effort congently as of 2010. Science also explpains how memory reconstructs the past and makes it available or , in many ways, denies the memory of contructing the preaent that occurred in the past. This is where a person is as he first observes markets and begins to reconstruct his relationship to the markets. My 50 plus years turned out well because I chose to partner with the markets. My training and expertise in various fields allows me to contruct and reconstruct how anyone can go through the transition of becoming a partner with the markets. Most people do not partner with the markets. I had not considered people and their relations with the market until all the evidence became available and was floddinginto my space. The literature is more or less a vaccuum surrounding the financial industry. Will Gordon come to life again in a new digital rendition? I looked 14 and 1/2 in my early trading years so I did stuff by phone and mail. Later, I could have guys on the floor sing happy birthday to my guests on the balcony. I went through the transition of being collegial with the powers that were. What is it like to go the course of having a true and complete partnership with the markets? I suppose my naivete had an origin and it propelled me past where everyone I read is stuck. My main thrust in highschoolwas being a Boy Scout and I taught Sunday school to a class of my peers. Flat head V8's were what power was all about. I used my fingernnail to gap plugs and got 7K per set of tires. I always pumped up my surfboard to keep the insides dry. My skiis had laniers and micromatic toe plates so they broke into pieces on bad falls. I never jumped longer than a 35 meter jump would take. Every year in college I broke somethings. So trading ws done with completely scientific naivete and the Boy Scout Oath and Law as underpinnings. I never even imagined people were like the people in ET. I did change brokers when they made their third mistake. What I got from this, I found out, was the trusting partnership I began with. I depict it in two of my documents as three links in a chain. Me on the left the market on the right and the relationship in between. The middle link is a circle that functions as illustrated This helps to explain why I couldn't catch on to the Dave Goodboy remarks about our approach and the apparent way he reconstructs the past vis a vis people he has met.
Guys, I an posting two attachments: The first is a copy of the stock list Jack sends out each week. The second is a of a Clearstation portfolio that tracked those stocks for the week of 2-8-10 Enjoy. S
To keep a contemporary feel here. Use the Illustration as follows: In the circle you see the starting point is to listen. The partnership link to the market is to the right. Listening can be the SS314 batting order he posted. The tell is also the specific market information about the stocks on the list. As you go around the circle over and over., the tells are followed by acceptance. Acceptance is a term that is related to relationships. some readers may have relationships where you can "accept" what is told to you by someone else. ET is in contrast to that. Dave Goodboy does not have the ability to "accept" what we say to him about our approach. He cannot even remember people who have explained it to him face to face. clearstation is a common site for people to track portfolios on an EOD basis. We use tiles and the tiles are 30 minute so they show the pattern. The pattern gives the timing ans does the leading volume on the "list" one pager signal coding. If a person is going to trade a market, there is the consideration of the market "tells" and the trader's ability to "accept". If this is not in the partner ship the "risk" printed in the circle is there and the "container" (the circle) can have NO TRUST in it. Trust is absent in the "partnership". This mostly eliminates the partnership. Users of the batting order are in a group and the group does the MADA. This makes a Universe appear on an Excel. The batting order comes from the Universe and it is deployed to trade the individul's capital in the group. The list shown accounts for 10 of the 19 trades in cluding the first trade which was a wash. I do not know or recognize SS314. That is becasue I am unfamiliar with the email lists in detail; it is just my job to send them to the first tier of the tires. So by using MADA and having a partnership , the repetition allows trust to come into the relationship. That is trusted is two things: the market data and how the market works. In this thread there are two groups of people who have posted which group they are in The stark contrast comes from these two considerations: the market data and how the market works. One class of participants still has to deal with the market data and how the market works. As steps in this directiion occur, there is a chance that the growth of these people will allow them to see what the market offers. Usually in the potential trader's career things go the other way and they get to be like Traderzones and his measures with lilited scles. Or T28 who does not know how to relate indicatorsto markets; or like T666 who cheats himself in his backtesting.
From what I know about him, Dave G runs a serious business with serious investors. He doesn't take anecdotal or pretty chart pictures seriously when evaluating strategies. He doesn't accept what gurus like JH and the ProFile say and requests substantiation of the claims. He relys on edges that make sense now and should into the time frame of the investment. We are still waiting for one shred of evidence of success of these methods outside of vague rhetoric and UFO looking diagrams. TINS
I apologize for not asking permission to post the above, but, there are some pretty nasty folks here. S
to backtrack a little, in ET among members there are no relationships to speak of. Tells are put into threadsand there is no "acceptance". Tells come from one person. For a relationship to exist there has to be a connection. Often it can be bilateral. It can goe both ways. Usually in ET recipients do not have the ability to "accept". This lack of acceptance is their reconstruction of the past whereby they use their continuing construction of the present to form memories that they then use to reconstruct the past. Daily, for many years, in one form or another I continue to forward my work to others. My job has always been to help. I do it with two resourses: time and money. The result is that by delegation many things get done that solve local problems. For people using the batting order from the Universe they get to trade as seen on the clearstation. The chart showed 27K makes 1.000 dollars a week uncompounded. I'm sure Dave's quant figured this out so Dave could say what we do is nonsense. !0% for that person is something he can dispose of to solve a local problem. The time he uses during the week is much more it turns out. His IAS's go to the Universe and he chats with other traders as they trader. Yesterday more than his weekly in PVT was made in a short time on ES using the pattern on another fractal as he practised annotating and seeing sub ftt's. This is an example of the opposite of ET's member relationships. Daily T666 gives us his viewpoint on ironclad non trust as he keeps phishing to "take" what he can from others. One of the current themes of distrust on ET evolves around the market's offer. It may be that some people do see price changing over time. they may even be able to garner that the difference of two prices could represent a "taking". You can see many many people have problems with other people making money while they are NOT making money. some of then evenask questions? Dave got up some nerve to speak with Mr_Black oince in a while where Mr_Black was very courteous regarding Dave's terminology which faltered a little here and there. T666 is on his usual quest to be in an iron clad state about money not available to him. anyone learning or who still has a cahnce to learn, can make the effort to listen to the market. as they sit on the sidelines there is no cost to have an orientation the "be accepting". focus on your coherence primarily and see if it is exactly like your coherencewhile meditating. Be cheap and buy post haste an EMvaveP C meter. coonect it to two places:your ear lobe and your old laptop gathering dust. Look at your reading od complete injcoherence as you look at the tells of the market. got through shifting form anxiety, fear and anger to support, comfort and confidence. just look at the pattern on the 2 min YM and the 5 min ES Look an "accept" what the market is teling you with the colors on the V and P. go to "empty" just like meditation. then let just the market "tells" happen. Accept it. just accep[t what is happening. see if there is some sensitivity as the days go by and you mind forms a small new place where bar colors can have patterns and you can remember the patterns that the market told you. Do not trust anything I say; just keep mistrusting me as usual. See if you can in a coherent state with a pulse that is within30 % of normal (you have eliminanted your continuing Bohr Effect which oxygen starves your mind ALL THE TIME YOU TRADE). The EMwave PC meter is a cult tool and a guy named Fourrier is their God who uses Fourrier analysis of the heart wave pattern. just a little something for everyone, today.
this was in the hands of my email list before open this AM. It was hand labelled Friday GDP and was page 3 of several pages .