trend following delusion shattered

Discussion in 'Trading' started by hank rollins, Mar 15, 2005.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. A thought just occurred to me regarding the belief in trends and trend trading, implicit or otherwise. If anyone has ever added to an existing profitable position (either in pyramid form or in any other configuration), then it seems to me that such persons not only believe in trends, but also act on those beliefs.

    Therefore, the question is: do any of you folks who think that trend trading is bogus ever add to existing profitable positions? :D
     
    #811     Mar 25, 2005
  2. I'm thinking in terms of intraday data -- volatility has been described as being coincidental with price excursions. If your frame of reference is longer than intraday then we could be talking past each other.
     
    #812     Mar 25, 2005
  3. No, that is an expression --- "yada, yada, yada, in my book". However, I've written some articles for Futures the preponderance of which are already in my journal. As regards the Nobel Prize in Economics...work on a lottery edge isn't what you consider for a Nobel Prize. What I did doesn't break with standard statistical treatments of probability and is an application of set theory to the lottery problem. Notice I limited my work to the 3 and 4-ball lotteries. For the 5-ball and beyond the combinatorial possibilities of winning numbers simply explodes. As I said twice before, even filling out lottery tickets for the three and four ball lotteries is time intensive. You can win using the strategy, but you must realize the lottery isn't a fair game to begin with: there are 1,000 combinations in the 3-ball and the payoff is only half that; so, basically, you are starting at a disadvantage and try to improve your chances.
     
    #813     Mar 25, 2005
  4. So far, I haven't made any distinction here between daytrading and interday.

    Are you saying that the respective price trends within two nearly adjacent intervals of time are more likely to be positively correlated if there is an interim of high volatility between them?
     
    #814     Mar 25, 2005
  5. This is becoming confusing -- all I'm saying is that if you are considering trading (intraday), it would be easier to trade if you waited for a volatility spike because (intraday) volatility and price excursion tend to occur together. I'm saying nothing about trend direction or two-trend direction. I'm saying if you identify the trend then wait for a volatility increase to make your play.
     
    #815     Mar 25, 2005
  6. Okay, I finally got it. Seems like something worth looking into.
     
    #816     Mar 25, 2005
  7. Woooo . . . slow down. I just wanted to understand your background a little better to then understand where your assupmtions arose. I don't favor statistical models used in trading for rational reasons but that is a objective reasoning thing.
     
    #817     Mar 25, 2005
  8. That's fine. Whatever floats your boat.
     
    #818     Mar 25, 2005
  9. Are you trying to say you have a winning strategy for cash3? Starting at a disadvantage is putting it mildly. It blows my mind that so many people are willing to go against 2 to 1 odds.
     
    #819     Mar 25, 2005
  10. #820     Mar 25, 2005
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.