trend following delusion shattered

Discussion in 'Trading' started by hank rollins, Mar 15, 2005.

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  1. This is the norm Nihaba. You will rarely find any large fund of any kind that puts all their eggs (Easter Reference :D) in one basket. I didn't want to say anything when the topic was first brought up by the person whose only friends are the top money mangers in the world but when he said what he said it was a blatant skewing of the information. Typical for someone in his field.
     
    #801     Mar 25, 2005

  2. great points, nihaba. most of the large trend funds are seriously over weighted in the most liquid markets, and i believe, will continue to take losses as a result of not being nimble any longer based on shear size, and of course, luck running out....

    have a great weekend !
     
    #802     Mar 25, 2005


  3. you should stick to "hedging". its your raison d'etat.

    happy easter !

    :)
     
    #803     Mar 25, 2005
  4. It's raison d'etre. And my family fills that bill.

    I guess that's Hank way of not denying what I wrote.
     
    #804     Mar 25, 2005
  5. Now that I've had some spare time to look at it, here's an update. Constructive criticism is welcome.

    (Caution: The challenge question is posted again below. Anyone who is offended by this material should avert their eyes and scroll past it or direct their browser elsewhere.)

    What is a reliable method that can be applied to past price action to determine, before entering a trade, the likelihood of a profitably large number d such that |p1-p0|>=d, where p0 is the current market price and p1 will be a marketable price in the near future?

    I'm looking for an answer to be posted here in plain text. The proof of the answer is also to be posted here, as real time trading calls that each specify on what basis the proposed method is being invoked.
     
    #805     Mar 25, 2005
  6. Why not just create a measure of volatility and wait for a suitably large spike to make your trade in the direction of the trend?
     
    #806     Mar 25, 2005
  7. Do you mean use a volatility spike as a leading indicator of a price move in a certain direction?
     
    #807     Mar 25, 2005
  8. Well, yeah, sort of. You could, maybe easier, just measure volatility against historical volatility and look for instances when volatility is rising then make your trade in the direction of the trend. There were a number of articles about this in TASC by Connors, I think. You could also use an EMA of volatility instead of historical volatility. I'm pretty sure the formulas for volatility and historical volatility are widely posted on the web.
     
    #808     Mar 25, 2005
  9. There could be something there.

    It's not immediately clear why an existing tendency in price would be more likely to persist after an interim of high volatility, but that's just me.
     
    #809     Mar 25, 2005
  10. I saw you mention in another thread that you had written a book/books. May I ask what it/they were regarding?
     
    #810     Mar 25, 2005
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