Surfer, I'd have to agree with you that Sometimes trend does not exist at all. That means there is absolutely no trends Occasionally, particularly during Sundays.
Again, I am not very skilled at communicating. Mistakenly, I used a term that I've read before and the term is part of the lingo of my generation. What "in my book" means when I write or speak it is this: "I feel and believe that what you are going to read or hear next is correct and accurate and factual". Regarding books, I have only written in other fields. There are about 5000 pages of web search results of just run on copy and stuff on the web at this point. It has been compiled and acrchived in several paces and I now have it on one disk and in html for quick searching with Copernic desktop Search 2. The non web stuff is more comprehensive. I'm sorting it all out under 700 major headings that will be slotted into 145 chapters in a series of 4 books. To make the connection to the conventional orthodox financial industry foundation I have used five concentric shells (software, data communications, economics, technical trading, and trading and exchanges) to define the 700 major headings. 100 contemporary books are grouped in these shells and one book per shell is the classic. I have done book reviews and excel type cross referencing on this. To match this I am dealing with the comtemporary educational component that is out there and I now am building a contemporary wizard colleagual dynamic network of money making performance with emphasis on their staff programmers. In other words, books don't hack it for getting a person to the top of the pile. What does it is to have the fast track tranference mechanism where the mechanism is based on proved track records of ace level performers. I have learned deeply that all of this has to start where the person is at any level with any persuasion. So I have built zillions of doors to open to enter. The mind cannot be erased, so there is an alternative to erasing. It is a dream come true for anyone who will be doing it. And it also filters out people who at "too far gone" by their choice, not mine. Up to recently, I primarily supported questions that people where asking. Giving answers only works if they do not have to make a leap to a new place. Leaping isn't viable for mostly anyone. For a person to move ahead, it is necessary to start at a place where their minds are operating and safe. right or wrong doesn't matter too much. What matters is getting started and building from wherever they are. Spyder has done just that here. Thanks giving for his efforts is something I could never give enough of to him. I do try though. I feel so grateful to him and the record he has made for practioners. What makes an expert and a wizard is clear and straight forward. One thing occurs. A mind is built that works properly. Work makes the dream come true. I've gone back to the details of how a person consumes energy on a cellular and subcellular basis. I needed to find out how and why I and these wizard colleagues (audiences do get to see some of them occassionally and some people get to sit around as they trade) operate the way it happens. Doing work in the proper vein is what is required. and the ratio of sensing comsciously to unconsciously is astounding. 10,000 to 20,000,000 in comparable units per second. We all know at this point that the trader record shows that the major learning theme of traders is learning repeated failure until the trader flees to another worldly environment. ET has an activity level of 600 or so at any time and there are 50,000 handles. Unconscious sensing is what kills the rooster. as a person runs at 20,000,000 units a second of unconscious sensing and only consciously perceives 10,000 units per second, it becomes very evident that no one can spend their time doing stuff that is inappropriate. There is no way back after a while. the books that will come of the effort I am making will just be like all other books; references at best. The CD's tucked in them will be valuable and different, however. The humor in my asking you to tell me something, certainly isn't going to get an answer. You can't see FTT's that spyder guides you to see. Columbus's ships could not be seen at first by the natives on the beaches. By canoeing close to them they were seen and from then on any approaching ship could be seen and talked about. FTT's happen in a bounded space. Most people do not have a space to the right o the forming bar. A scale is right there and so there is no room for the space to hold anything. What is it like for the subconscious to be taking in a fully annotated space to the right of a forming bar? Roughly speaking it iis a miracle. Watching a bar form in a continuing fully annotated space as the future moves into the present is a very different world than what is seen in illustrations that are conventional. All conventional illustrations have not space to the right of the forming bar that is fully annotated. Do you remember the S and P stuff of DBPhoenix where he would not draw a line parallel to his TL. Maybe. What if he could have rawn the left boundary of price just as automatically as he drew the right boundary of price after it happened? What if he could have projected the TL he drew historically up to the present further and further to the scales on his charts that had no space to the right of the forming bar? Well if he were to do that, supply and demand would have meant a lot different things to him and his colleagues. 1. make some space to the right. 2. project all trendlines on all fractals into this space representing the future. 3. compare the three shortest trendlines on the three fractals that they appear on. 4. Notice where all the trend lines cross each other. 5. Watch what happens before this conjunction is reached. So then always add the left channel lines too. So look at patterns within these channels. At some point you get to see channels and trendlines overlap. It is like the natives seeing Columbus's ships at first. When you see trendlines overlapping and channels overlapping for the first time..you have an aha. or an AHA.... The FTT is there in that time frame(s)......... The time when price is to the left of two trendlines is a very important time. When is the first time a person gets to see the price to the left of two trendlines? Spyder says, remarkably, ... "just for a moment, look"... "oh, let go for a while and look"..... The reason I like to suggest moving the forming bar away from the very right side is because a person can get to see nothing for a moment and it shuts down what the subconscious is using to reinforce repeated failure no matter what form it is in..... Looking at the future move into the present is one of the most delightful things. Projecting all those lines into it make the scale on the right set boundaries for the future...that is a neat pleasant thing too. Setting your scale for future price action..... There are a lot of choices there for people in ET..... You have to start to work to build your mind sometime. It is very important to fill your subconscious with good stuff. Chatting with other people who are trading on sports memory is a fun face to face thing. It's definitely all smiles. Just go for it. Watch Tiger play golf....
thank you, spyder. yes, i will verify that i witnessed you making an uncannily accurate market call earlier in the week. can professor logic make similar calls before the fact to lend credence to his method--other than the meaningless charts he posts? If not my interest in his "book" ( per mr.hersheys definition of such) will be relegated to my books /interest in uri geller, cranks, charlatans, magick, and the dark arts--- regards, surfer
I made the attempt once to do an online journal and you mercilessly harassed me until I closed the thread. Nice try at making yourself look human though. You've taught me a lot about human nature since then. I do live trading in front of people on a regular basis, you had the opportunity to watch and ask questions for free. You decided to decline the offer. It makes for better tabloid material and sensationalistic accusations if you don't understand the particulars, doesn't it. You won't get another offer. My meaningless charts are labeled by a computer run by logical programs that read price in real time. Many traders understand the simplicity of what they show. What volumes that says about you. Was the slam that was at the end of your statement above directed toward Jack or my book?
For the ES, the last time I checked, I use one four day/ bar chart and one two day/ bar chart. Teleb is right, the markets are random in that no one knows when they will turn, but buyers and sellers buy and sell for very specific reasons, this makes the markets non-random. Trends can be found on any chart, the idea is to find the best chart for the best trend, and to have a system that makes sense. I can personally vouch for Prof and for Jack, but that is not what you want to hear, we all know that. But I'll play along for awhile Best Regards Oddi
so the market is random, but since buyers and seller are rationale it is not. wow. now THAT is convincing.
Think about it in ticks, and then think about it in quarters. Of course I am not posting to convince anyone of anything, I have outgrown that. Best Regards Oddi
There is one contributor to this and similar forums on the Web whose personna is strikingly comparable to the personna of Chauncey Gardner in the 1979 Peter Seller's classic "Being There." I leave it to the rest of you to decide who that is.