Trayvon Martin Video Shows No Blood or Bruises on George Zimmerman

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AK Forty Seven, Mar 28, 2012.

  1. Brass

    Brass

    Were his opponents using concrete for gloves and aiming for his scalp?
     
    #231     Mar 30, 2012
  2. You do understand that using "flowery" language doesn't impress anyone...
     
    #232     Mar 30, 2012
  3. Re-state it again and I'll tear you a new a$$hole.

    Your point is /has/ always will be stupid :it's in your nature.
     
    #233     Mar 30, 2012
  4. Brass is now officially retarded... Or perhaps he's just "stupid like a fox" but really, I'd bet on retarded.

    Whoever taught him what "non sequitor" means certainly didn't teach him how to use it correctly in an argument!
     
    #234     Mar 30, 2012
  5. Brass

    Brass

    "Flowery" as in grammatically correct and factually accurate? No, I imagine evolution and climate change deniers would not be impressed.
     
    #235     Mar 30, 2012
  6. STFU!
     
    #236     Mar 30, 2012
  7. No, as in "verbal masturbation".
     
    #237     Mar 30, 2012
  8. Just out of curiosity : How often do you argue with your Dr , nurses Therapists about medicine?
     
    #238     Mar 30, 2012
  9. It's what the leftists and con men are really good at!
     
    #239     Mar 30, 2012
  10. I think most of this obsessive focus on Zimmerman, his injuries or lack thereof, if he was on conrete or not, what the girlfriend overheard or didn't, should Zimmerman have followed Martin, etc is legally irrelevant.

    I don't even see the stand your ground law as being relevant, as Zimmerman apparently said he was attacked without warning. Reduced to essentials, this is a case where two guys were fighting and one shot the other. If Zimmerman had a reasonable belief that he would otherwise have suffered death or serious harm, then he has a valid self defense claim. If not, he has committed probably manslaughter. It is unclear to me what the legal significance would be if Zimmerman was somehow shown to have thrown the first punch, other than to make him guilty of an assault.

    The only witnesses have said at least that they say Martin on top of Zimmerman, punching him and that Zimmerman was calling for help. Zimmerman had some injuries, while martin apparently had none, other than of course a gunshot wound. Zimmerman's father gave an interview in which he said Zimmerman had left his vehicle to go around tothe front of the townhouses to get a street address for the police and was attacked on his return.

    Viewed objectively, it seems to me that actual relevant facts tend to corroborate Zimmerman's account. The story has been muddied by the wild allegations made by various race hustlers to the effect that Martin was stalked, hunted down and executed, which clearly did not happen. There is a crucial gap when the fight began, but again it seems to me that Zimmerman's account is more credible. Typically, guys packing a firearm do not instigate fistfights. Nor do they call the police to announce they are following a suspect before jumping him.


    The thing that bothers me about this case is I know to a moral certainty that if Zimmerman was a police officer, he would never be charged on these facts. This kind of officer attacked shooting occurs regularly and is never labelled manslaughter. In fact, there are frequent cases where police shoot people who they claimed tried to run over them with a car. A car that misses you is far less of a threat than someone mounting you and trying to grab your gun. Legally, Zimmerman has as much right to defend himself as a policeman. Whether that will turn out to be true politically may be another matter.
     
    #240     Mar 30, 2012