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Discussion in 'Politics' started by peilthetraveler, Jun 27, 2013.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    And you're supporting mine, the reversals were a necessity of the existence of the tea party and the existence of reason.
     
    #251     Jul 10, 2013
  2. pspr

    pspr

    You mean like Obama supporting gays before running for national office, then supporting DOMA while running for election, then supporting gays again after his final election? Is that the kind of flip flopping you are talking about Rectum?

    Or, do you mean double talk, like boasting and taking credit for the massive drilling going on in the U.S. private lands because of fracking while making more U.S. public land and oceans off limits to drilling and pussy footing around things like the Keystone pipeline that hurt America's energy situation? Is that what you mean?
     
    #252     Jul 10, 2013
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Stop making shit up already. Bigarrow said Romney catered to the Tea Party. Saying something the Tea Party likes and then switching back before the election isn't catering to the Tea Party, since they vote at election time. Christ, why are you so thick? Or is it you just like to argue about every possible thing even when you know you're way off base?
     
    #253     Jul 10, 2013
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Or the debt limit. Or transparency. Or...
     
    #254     Jul 10, 2013
  5. LEAPup

    LEAPup

    He doesn't know what the Tea Party even stands for.
     
    #255     Jul 10, 2013
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Of course he doesn't. He regurgitating main stream media talking points.
     
    #256     Jul 10, 2013
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    You're the thick one here. If not for the tea party he would not have had to flip flop (as much).

    Edit: he still had the plutocrats to sell to, as well, so some flip flopping was inevitable.
     
    #257     Jul 10, 2013
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    You're still not getting it. In order to cater to one specific group, he would have to promise something to that group going into the election so that group would vote on it. You can't promise something to the Tea Party, then renege in time to piss them off so they vote against you (or not vote for you, which was the case), and call that catering to the Tea Party.

    Both candidates flip flopped. A lot. The difference is that Romney alienated his party's base far, far more. It showed in the election results.
     
    #258     Jul 10, 2013
  9. pspr

    pspr

    Hell, I didn't even know people from Pluto could vote on earth.
     
    #259     Jul 10, 2013
  10. It's hard to believe that this thread has been diverted into wild claims that conservative positions cost Romney the election.

    Let's summarize why he lost, so we can avoid chasing down these rabbit holes.

    First, he basically took the summer off and failed to attack Obama or try to establish a negative public persona for Obama, a proven tactic for republicans. In so doing, he followed McCain's disastrous strategy of the previous election. In both cases, I believe they were frightened off by PC fears of attacking a black man, particularly one so beloved by the media and other blacks.

    Worse, Romney sat back and absorbed some of the most vicious character assaults I have ever seen in an election, including one claim that he caused the death of a man's wife by denying her medical coverage for cancer. Ultimately, Obama was quite successful in portraying Romney's business success as illegitimate and harmful, undermining Romney's biggest asset. Meanwhile, Romney never made a concerted effort to blame Obama for the poor economy.

    Ironically, Obama, who is one of the outright weirdest figures ever to run for president, an aloof, arrogant faculty lounge radical with little in the way of American roots, was able to paint Romney as the odd guy out.

    Second, Romney made a disastrous error in selecting Paul Ryan as his VP candidate. Ryan lacked stature and was basically humiliated in his debate with the idiot Biden. Moreover, his sole asset, his health care and budget plans, allowed Obama to shift the focus of the campaign from his failed policies to Ryan's plans. Ryan's plans, while no doubt good faith efforts, offended important republican constituencies and had zero chance of being enacted in any event.

    Third, Romney came up short in the crucial third debate when he passed on an opportunity to attack Obama for the Benghazi disaster. This was a golden opportunity to connect with voters and accuse Obama of abandoning brave Americans who were outnumbered and under fire. More broadly, Romney and Ryan both seemed well out of their depth in discussing foreign affairs. Some of this was no odubt due to trying to straddle the fence between the eno-con and Paulite factions, but at the end of the day, his criticism of Obama seemed to lack coherence.

    Finally, Romney lost because of the unfortunate timing of Hurricane Sandy, which gave Obama a golden opportunity, duly trumpeted by the obama media, to act presidential. He was aided immeasurably by backstabbing traitor Chris Christie.

    Election stats showed that core republican voters, older whites, turned out in disappointing numbers compared to Obama's core, older black voters. Vote fraud no doubt accounts for some of this, but Romney's poor showing as a candidate has to get the lion's share of the blame.
     
    #260     Jul 10, 2013