I'm sure the guy was hallucinating when he called up the BBC and said he was alive? Heyyyy, wait a minute. Maybe the BBC is lying?!! http://www.newsgateway.ca/hijackers_still_alive.htm Oh, and Atta's father says he talked to his son on 9/12 a day later. Apparently The finding of Passports that "miraculously survive" 1000 degree heat and millions of tons of pressure per square inch is actually quite common. http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/september2004/120904hijackeralive.htm And of course you can be sure every one of them who were found alive will now be dead. The Mossad is making sure of that! They've already been embarrased enough as it is. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1585562142333161866&q=911+Stranger+Then+Fiction+Part+V ROTFLAMO!!
Funny to see the moonbats crying about supposed uncoincidental timing yet again... These are the same dingdongs claiming we already had Bin Laden and would "capture" him or announce his death just prior to the '04 elections. This is all staged, this is 1984 come alive, Bush is Hitler, this administration is the greatest threat to freedom and world peace, it is a dictatorship blah, blah, blah. Round and round the moonbats go....
ROTFLMAO!!! <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7092/fblieit9.png" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a> I bet those SOBs are dead by now. Dead men don't speak.
The FB Lie hard at work protecting terrorists!! <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8232/fblie2uu2.png" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>
The only way to draw a rational conclusion is to base it on hard evidence...not conjecture. The Bush and Blair administrations have repeatedly lied about security threats for ulterior motives. Is this claim based on hard evidence? The evidence in support of point #2 is pretty unambiguous.
1 & 2 are just different sides of the same coin. The Aug 10 events in the UK proves that the security risks are there. How the leaders are trying to convince the public to take this serious is another matter. We need only to look at the responses of the apologists and sympathisers on this board to see how stupid and shortsighted humanity is. (it is the same shortsightedness as Chamberlain had with Hitler) It was Dale Carnegie who stated that in 6 months time the memory and hence perception of events can be 100% changed. Like I have been pointing out: we hear consistently the rhetoric about Bush / Blair / Israel being evil but those things do not explain Muslim initiated violence elsewhere in the world. If this violnece was only directed at the West then I could still have some form of sympathy. But when this violence turns against the local population then I consider something else being at play. We need only to look at how the Taliban treats their women and their daughters. That has nothing to do with the West or Israel or Jews. Time and time again people from the west go to their countries and (at a minimum try to) observe their customs. When I am an immigrant I will try to adapt as much as possible to the culture and the laws of my new country. After all it is a privilige to be an immigrant. These people are immigrants and then try to pervert (with force and bullying, look at Russia, Spain and France) the laws of the country that they come to. They want their own sharia. They want their women circumsized so they will stay "loyal". They do not care that it is prohibited in their new country. They have no respect for the local customs and then start to complain that a cross or a statue with the 10 commandments offends them and needs removing. Yet we have to put up with their local Imam calling them 5 times a day on a loudhailer to prayers. Trying to tell me Islam is a religion of peace is a load of crock in my opinion. Something is loose in the minds of these people and I know not every Muslim is like this, there are good ones too. But like pointed out elsewhere on ET: why is it that all these terrorists are Muslim? Holmes
There is billions of dollars flowing out of Saudi Arabia funding all these troubles around the world, now Iran as well. It is not going away until they are told to go drink their oil but China is using lots of oil so the whole middle east can become a China surrogate against the US. Might as well get used to it, best thing to do is to insist your local laws get enforced.
Bush and Blair didn't "Lie" and there are fanatics that would gladly watch us all burn alive. It's nauseating reading this thread. If bush lied, so did both Clintons, Kerry, Edwards, Murtha, Kennedy, etc, etc, etc, etc ... All of them are on record stating Suddam is a mad-man and a threat to the world. man, this forum has degenerated into a crack-pot convention.