Transition from Beginner to Pro Trader. How?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by ePandit, Oct 27, 2006.

  1. Ldamiani

    Ldamiani

    One must also get rid of the miths:

    1) A good trading system is a simple trading system;
    2) Trades must have "Take profit:Stoploss" ratio greater than 2:1 (usually wrongly called risk-reward ratio;
     
    #21     Nov 10, 2006

  2. i completely agree with this assessment, but i would add: keep a good record. log each entry and exit, why you made the trade. looking back over you logbook helps you learn from your mistakes. i analyze each trade once it's over to determine what i did right or wrong.
     
    #22     Nov 11, 2006
  3. and some traders routiney make a living by pounding out many trades where there "reward" (at least primary and secondary targets ) is LESS than the risk.

    again, it's all about positive expectancy

    an 80% winner with a 10 pt stop, 6 pt first target 8 pt second target, and 3rd target a runner with stop moved to entry is also a winning strategy.
     
    #23     Nov 11, 2006
  4. Neet

    Neet

    That's odd, now that my capital has increased Im having problem with liquidity.

    Found it much easier to trade with lesser # of shares.
     
    #24     Nov 13, 2006
  5. you gotta trade what u can

    that is one reason many people managing hyooge amounts of money can't beat the market (although I doubt you are there yet) :) . you can't beat the market, when u ARE the market. peter lynch talked about that iirc.

    personally, i trade futures (i invest in stocks, but don't trade them as much) and there is PLENTY of liquidity here, if u want to come on over. :)
     
    #25     Nov 13, 2006
  6. jessop

    jessop

    ePandit,

    I am a beginning trader with 2 years real trading experience.

    I have a positive expectancy edge, that I totally believe in.
    I have pretty good risk management controls.
    I have plenty of capital.
    I have a good trade plan & detailed diary.

    But I have FEAR of losing money, being wrong, missing out & leaving money on the table etc.

    I am picking these off one by one by having strict entry & exit rules so I don't think I just act. Now its just down to pushing those fear boundaries every trading session.

    IMHO pro traders can control their fears and just do what it takes.

    Cheers

    J
     
    #26     Nov 18, 2006
  7. Perhaps:
    1) first you learn how to lose money
    2) then you learn how not to lose money
    3) then you learn how to make other traders lose money
    4) ...
     
    #27     Nov 19, 2006
  8. ePandit

    ePandit

    Agree. Hopefully we will do that some day.
     
    #28     Feb 8, 2007
  9. I'm sure other great examples exist, but a recent addition is Alexander Elders Entries & Exits - found it very helpful to read the traders thoughts before and after the trade entry/exit, and then Elder's after-the-fact comments.
     
    #29     Feb 9, 2007
  10. Absolutely!
    When I read quotes here on ET, I wonder if some of the best traders forget the stepwise progression to becoming successful. In their attempt to sumarise how they 'became' they often forget the difficult to explain psychology, money management, and instead focus on the newbie questions (which program, broker, stock etc).

    It does take years in any profession to reach expertise. I sometimes think that what I do as a physician must seem so trivially easy to patients, but the reality is that all that training and experience has become automatic.

    I know I could never be what I am now as a physician, without years of experience.
     
    #30     Feb 9, 2007