Tradovate quadrupled margins on IRA accounts without notice

Discussion in 'Retail Brokers' started by Artech, May 4, 2023.

  1. NorgateData

    NorgateData Sponsor

    Perhaps they just fixed their systems to correction apply the margin rates for IRA accounts.

    Others have higher margins for IRA accounts, such as IB:

    https://www.interactivebrokers.com.au/ru/index.php?f=233&p=overview
    "Futures trading in an IRA margin account is subject to substantially higher margin requirements than in a non-IRA margin account."
    "Margin rates in an IRA margin account may meet or exceed three times the overnight futures margin requirement imposed in a non-IRA margin account"

    Do a Google search on this:
    limited margin IRA
     
    #11     May 4, 2023
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  2. "Margin" has 2 different meanings in the finance industry. Maybe there is a misunderstanding at one side... :)
     
    #12     May 5, 2023
  3. Artech

    Artech

    I had opened a separate account with Tradovate by taking money from my IBKR account to avail of lower margins. Though IBKR has IRA margins of 3X, Tradovate's new policy states that they can raise margins as much as 8X for IRA accounts. There is no reason now to sacrifice the efficiency and professionalism of IBKR for a discount broker when there is no advantage left.
    Or rather not with Ninja or Tradovate at least. They want to have high margins but can not hold a candle to IBKR.
     
    #13     May 5, 2023
  4. tango29

    tango29

    Since the last major issue, and it was a major issue, it has been running good for me. Not a defender of any firm, but seems to have been fixed at least here.
     
    #14     May 5, 2023
  5. %%
    Higher[more conservative ]margins could be a good thing.
    This may not apply to Australia, but i haven't had time to research that one completely today:D:D
     
    #15     May 5, 2023
  6. Tradovate

    Tradovate Sponsor

    Margins for IRA accounts were updated on May 1st, 2023 and previously existing IRA account holders were notified by email in advance. Margin rates for IRA accounts are typically higher than traditional futures accounts due to the increased risk associated with these account types. If we can address any further questions, please contact us at support@tradovate.com.
     
    #16     May 10, 2023
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  7. Artech

    Artech

    It is misleading when nowhere on your website are the IRA margins mentioned - this leads people to believe they are no different. Also, Ironbeam, AMP, and other futures brokers are offering the same IRA margins for day traders as any other account holders. They have auto-liquidation capabilities and manage the risk that way.
     
    #17     May 10, 2023
  8. Cabin111

    Cabin111

    So what are your exit fees, if someone wants to close out and IRA and move it elsewhere...
     
    #18     May 12, 2023
  9. Cabin111

    Cabin111

    #19     May 12, 2023
  10. Ghappy21

    Ghappy21

    I do not agree with this post.
     
    #20     Jul 17, 2023