TradingScience Announces a Strategic Alliance With Trade-Ideas

Discussion in 'Events' started by RAMOUTAR, Apr 23, 2004.

  1. I have been using the Trade-Ideas product and believe it's one of the best strategy neutral, streamlined products out there, so much so I would like to avail it to every TradingScience protege.

    TradingScience Announces Its Strategic Alliance With Trade-Ideas

    (PRWEB) April 22, 2004--“We are delighted to bring Trade-Ideas into the portfolio of alliances and teaching tools at TradingScience”, said Jai Ramoutar, Jr., CEO of TradingScience. “Trade-Ideas alert windows keep students ‘on the path’ by consistently and exclusively providing those opportunities that meet the specific parameters, patterns and levels learned from TradingScience instructors. In this way the discipline we teach regarding How to trade is matched by Trade-Ideas' technology to find the “cream that rises to the top”. Our alliance with Trade-Ideas delivers a powerful and simple to use tool used by institutional traders to our students all over the world.”

    "We are very pleased to have formed this strategic alliance with TradingScience, one of the world's leading educators," said David M. Aferiat, Director of Business Development, of Trade-Ideas. "Trade-Ideas is a superior teaching tool that allows TradingScience and its team to model their ideal environment for trade performance and risk management. Combined with their mantra and unbreakable approach of using predetermined entry, stop and target before every trade, TradingScience and its students take our service to another plateau. This is why we are so pleased to have formed this alliance.”

    Company information for TradingScience:

    TradingScience, a “dba” of Trident Capital Partners, Inc. is one of the world’s leading educators of direct-access stock market participants. The core of TradingScience’s curriculum and strategy is the marriage of simplified technical analysis and effective momentum analysis. TradingScience not only caters to hedge fund and proprietary traders, but individual traders as well.

    Jai Ramoutar, Jr., TradingScience Chairman & CEO has personally trained over 12,000 retail and professional traders the art and science of trading since 1994. For a complete bio of Mr. Ramoutar visit

    To learn more about TradingScience, visit

    Company Information for Trade-Ideas:

    Trade-Ideas alerts its customers to trade opportunities in real-time in order to profit from ideal situations of their own design. As a configurable decision-support tool, it tailors itself to fit specific trading or risk management strategies.

    Recent reviews from The, HedgeWorld, Active Trader, Stock & Commodities magazine (, stock newletters (, and leading brokers describe the service as an accurate, discriminating alert provider that is flexible, simple to deploy, and easy to use. A free trial is offered for 7 days, cancelable at any time, and available after registering with Pay Pal. For product and subscription information visit:

  2. 10% of all traders make money. Assuming, rather generously, that Ramoutar has trained 10% of all successful traders and that all Ramoutar trained traders are succesful (why else pay the man?:)) then there are, at the very least, 1,200,000 traders in America?
  3. Interesting to me that even though Mr. Ramoutar has offered some good advice in the past, when it comes to promoting this web based business, we still have to hear the hype. I wonder how it is that Mr. Ramoutar has been able to prepare for the market each day, and somehow find the time to train 12,000 people!!! I wonder when (or if) we will ever see a vendor who simply presents his true credentials and lets the market establish value. Best Regards, Steve46
  4. nkhoi

    nkhoi Moderator

    can you go over a couple of strategies.
  5. wdscott


    Yes, some basic strategy would be nice, to give us a little idea of what is in your course . And would you discuss in "open form" the various services you provide, including costs.

    Best Regards,
    Dave Scott
  6. the trade ideas scanning system is the BEST program readily available for locating profitable trades. it has my highest recomendations.

    i am quite happy that an alliance has been formed between jai and trade ideas. jai's teaching ability and trading prowness combined with this powerful software will be a formidable combination.

    best wishes with the new strategic partnership !!

    surfer :) :)
  7. Yes I plan on sharing some strategies and additional information in the coming week. I have yet to determine the forum in which the information will be share, I'm think an ET chat room. I'll let you know.

    I’m glad that you enjoy Trade-Ideas as well. TradingScience will soon offer discounts for this product, and it will be bundled into TradingScience programs. Many of the changes will reflect on the TS site within the next week. TradingScience will be shifting its primary focus to the hedge fund and proprietary trader. Thanks for your acknowledgement and compliments, Dave.
  8. Steve,

    TradingScience has just recently become a "sponsor" here on the ET site. Like you I have made many posts on this board (525 before I became an advertiser), my posts, all of which I can say are intended to offer help and "good advice", as you have so generously pointed out. TradingScience is very proud of its alliance with Trade-Ideas, and has announced it here on ET.

    Unless you chose your descriptive word "hype", very "loosely"...

    hype1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hp) Slang
    Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion: the hype surrounding the murder trial.
    Exaggerated or extravagant claims made especially in advertising or promotional material: “It is pure hype, a gigantic PR job” (Saturday Review).
    An advertising or promotional ploy: “Some restaurant owners in town are cooking up a $75,000 hype to promote New York as ‘Restaurant City, U.S.A.’” (New York).
    Something deliberately misleading; a deception: “ [He] says that there isn't any energy crisis at all, that it's all a hype, to maintain outrageous profits for the oil companies” (Joel Oppenheimer).

    tr.v. hyped, hyp·ing, hypes
    To publicize or promote, especially by extravagant, inflated, or misleading claims: hyped the new book by sending its author on a promotional tour.

    Unlike any trader and educator I have come across, I speak fact and nothing less. It is quite unfortunate that: snakeoilers, charlatans and down right scam artists, have poisoned the industry and its students with lies. My "true credentials" are available on the TradingScience website, a representation that a "scarce few" could or would do.

    I "found the time to train over 12,000 people" to trade from 1995-2001 while trading "my account, my money and other accounts (full discretion)" at the same time while teaching. I traded while I taught (the first one to do so) in the direct-access training arean. Here is the breakdown on how I found the time for your edification:

    1995-2001 All-Tech Training Group

    Four Phase Training Program (5-week training program in Montvale, NJ & Bellevue, WA)

    - average of 20 students per class, two classes per month

    20 students per class x 2 classes per month x 7 years= 3,360 students

    1-Week Bootcamps(at over 20 branches in the continental US)

    - average of 15 students per class x 2 classes per month x 7 years= 2,520 students

    Online Training, TrainToTrade average of 750 students per months, for 7-months= 5,250 students

    Video Conferencing

    - average of 10 students per session, 3 sessions per week with various branch offices, for 5 years = 7,200 students

    So the more accurate number is 18,330 people. This does not include the onsite, online and CD seminars I did with my previous employer.

    The facts are what they are. the number of students I have trained over a 7-year period are what they are.

    All of the information I have provided can be confirmed by the Chairman, President and General Counsel of All-Tech: Messrs. Mark Shefts, Harvey Houtkin and Mrs. Linda Lerner respectively. I'm certain that many students of past (8 and or 3 years later) are on this board and "still" trading.

    I offer a direct challenge to you or any one on the face of this earth to prove my claims, integrity or truth as being false or misleading. My trading and training experience and ability have not only made me a sought after "industry expert witness", but also an "educator."

    "Thou not protest too much." I am a product of my history, and very proud of it.

  9. Jai,
    Great to see you supplying firm figures:)
    Could you also give your trading(only) income over the last few years.

  10. My trading records are being validated by the firms with which I have traded, and the clearing firms through which they have cleared. Since I am an NASD registered rep (CRD#2063415), I must wait for an approval from the NASD (National Association of Securities Dealers).

    You can email/ call them directly with the information found here:

    In my bio. As soon as I have received clearance to avail those facts, I will.
    #10     Apr 24, 2004