Trading with Futures Prop Firms - 2025

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by Coin Flip, Jan 6, 2025.

  1. p0box4

    p0box4

    Most others have $3K as a target, so that's still better.

    That being said, I don't care about data fees, because by the time you reach the live funded account and have to pay those you already have withdrawn profits, which can be used to pay the fees.

    So I prefer the one with the most realistic rules, increasing the odds of a trader reaching the live stage and being able to withdraw profits.
     
    #31     Jan 12, 2025
  2. p0box4

    p0box4

    TakeProfitTrader removed their daily loss limit, so point 1 is no longer valid.
     
    #32     Jan 14, 2025
  3. Coin Flip

    Coin Flip

    Just picked up a $150k eval from them.

    No daily loss limit and no consistency rule in funded.

    One of the few prop firms that allow you to go for home runs.
     
    #33     Jan 14, 2025
  4. You guys need to understand the business model behind prop firms.

    Pay attention to this interview.

     
    #34     Jan 17, 2025
  5. p0box4

    p0box4

    Stopped watching after a few minutes.

    Sounds like this guy is talking about CFD and FX firms only. A futures prop firm that actually offers live accounts will never ban you for being to profitable, quite the opposite actually, they will allow you more risk/more size if you are doing well.

    Of course there are firms out there that don't offer live accounts, but that's just dumb on the traders end if you go with those kind of firms.

    Also funny how he mentiones Funded Engineer as the only firm out there he knows that's legit, yet they are bankrupt right now ...
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2025
    #35     Jan 17, 2025
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  6. if you watch videos from that channel you will see that he is one of the few that is not full of shit in this business. But it is up to you, it is all fine if you don't like the video.
     
    #36     Jan 17, 2025

  7. This seems to be the "key point" that so many participants in forum discussions of this subject fail to appreciate.

    Yet it's such a simple point: is the company incentivized for you to win, or to lose?



    That's Youtube "information" for you. :rolleyes:

    I'm not part of the target market for these firms, but if I were, Tradeday and Topstep would probably be the only two I'd take seriously.
     
    #37     Jan 17, 2025
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  8. In all fairness, I have heard many times that Topstep does a fair job and is a reliable firm. So there is that.
     
    #38     Jan 17, 2025
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  9. As far as I can tell, Topstep is the #1 choice among these bucket shops. However, it's not clear to me which #2 is?

    I'm looking for that #2 to expand my portfolio. A requirement would be that I can copy-trade at least 3 accounts and as little restrictions as possible on trading and getting paid.

    I may even be looking for a #3 at one point.

    PS: These firms are a means to an end for me. I have no illusions about being actually 'funded'.
     
    #39     Jan 18, 2025
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  10. I think they are for everyone, aren’t they?

    Nobody would want to stay with one long-term, giving up a proportion of their profits unnecessarily? They’re purporting to be for a specific niche: people with trading skills but without capital (though the great majority of their customers doubtless have neither)?
     
    #40     Jan 18, 2025