Trading with a Stop Loss in the Futures Market is for Losers

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by emg, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. What the hell are you babbling about?
    I can understand if you don't want to use stops but 100k usually exceeds the contracts notational value.

    Once you do that your leverage is 1 or less, and in the realm of buy n hold risk.
    The contract could go to zero and you still wouldn't get a margin call so there's no need for stops at all anyway.
    Can it be done? Sure but it's
    Not exactly the best use of capital though.

    You won't be earning all that much interest on your excess margin.
     
    #361     Jul 7, 2012
  2. "Not exactly the best use of capital".

    Boy, now there is an understatement if I ever saw one.
     
    #362     Jul 7, 2012
  3. Macho

    Macho

    A prostitute is the first thing that cums to my mind.:D
     
    #363     Jul 7, 2012
  4. LOL

    Nah, best use is to rush to another stop ...

    When finally remain with 200 bucks that can be a good one ...
     
    #364     Jul 7, 2012
  5. Place no stops and you'll end up broke soon.
     
    #365     Jul 8, 2012
  6. emg

    emg

    what are the reason why small traders are losing? 1 reason why they losing because of using stops.



    placing stop loss is for loser. 1 lot equal $100,000 (minimum) trading in the es.
     
    #366     Oct 4, 2012
  7. yes, fixed stops are for weak hands and those who don't understand the oscillating nature of the market. fixed stops kill.
     
    #367     Oct 4, 2012
  8. have been seeing plenty of your posts.... and boasts, perhaps?

    alright, i believe you.

    won't you dare to show us just one of your live trades ON YOUR LIVE TRADING SCREEN(S) placed today (2012-10-04 thurs) or tomorrow (2012-10-05 fri, pls?

    i will forever shut up and won't question your trading ability any longer.

    only if you dare to prove your point, K?

    regards with all due respect

    nakachalet@gmail.com
     
    #368     Oct 4, 2012
  9. @marketsurfer

    alright, i believe you too, just as i believe the other trader....

    won't you also be able to show us just one of your live trades ON YOUR LIVE TRADING SCREEN(S) placed today (2012-10-04 thurs) or tomorrow (2012-10-05 fri, pls?

    i will forever shut up and won't question your trading ability any longer, either.

    regards with all due respect to you too, marketsurfer.

    nakachalet@gmail.com
     
    #369     Oct 4, 2012
  10. Wow! We have finally found the best traders in the world. They ave discovered something new and revolutionary in the world of trading. They have revealed a very advanced form of trading which could never have been imagined by a novice or low producing trader.

    It's trading with-out stops and adding to losing trades until eventually they become winners even if your trading capital becomes trapped for extended unproductive periods of time.

    They have even uncovered the causes of Livermore's losses. It appears Livermore was not honest with himself and others when he believed his losses were the result of not following his system and being influenced by others. His losses were actually caused by "STOPS!"
    If only he was as smart as they are. He would have kept his various fortunes like they have.

    They have also uncovered how the most famous, well known, profitable traders in current time and history could be exponentially more profitable. It's having the confidence in your trade decision, never admitting you we're wrong, never ever allowing for the loss of a single dollar. Stay in the trade, even if it is for 6 months or a year! Continue to average down waiting for a reversal or a retracement because they have discovered that markets do not move in a straight line! Better to make $1 than lose $1 even if it takes months of tied up capital.

    If only the Market Wizards had the vision, intellect and bravery of the handful of prodigious on ET. We the Wizard followers and believers would not have wasted so much time doing it all wrong and we too would be as successful as the prodigies of ET. If only we were as smart as they. The world would be our playground just as it for them.


    Bruce, Marty, Marcus, Ed, you led us astray to mediocrity. We have found the true Holy Grail and our new mentors. They are soon to be so much bigger than you. So they tell us. We believe!
     
    #370     Oct 8, 2012