Trading while trying to lose weight on Atkins

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Jul 16, 2003.

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    LOW FAT/ LOW PROTEIN/ HIGH CARBS>> thats the way to fly!
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    It is exactly this sort of thinking that has propelled the incidence of diabetes to epidemic levels in this country. A leading cause of cancer is NOT eating red meat or fat.

    remember when Apples were bad for you? and eggs? If you actually (and carefully) read the medical journals regarding this subject you will see that the patients had high carb levels in their diets in addition to their FAT intake. It was this improperly drawn conclusion that has developed into the anti-fat campaign.

    The American Diabetes Foundation recommends LOWERING carb intake well BELOW the FDA recommended levels.

    IF you don't like eskimos then pick another low carb population - such as the Japanese. Both the Japanese and American Eskimo have, as a population, lower incidences of Diabetes, cardiovascular diseases (Angina, Elevated Blood Pressure, or myocardial infarction) as well as CANCER. These are entire populations who were either out of reach of the refined carbohydrates or culturally chose not to include these carbs in their diet. As a result, they are healthier, and often live longer than Americans in general.

    Low carb diets are not dangerous unless one has impaired renal function and or low creatine clearance. One should always consult their physician (not WebMD) before beginning any diet regimen.
     
    #111     Jul 17, 2003
  2. nitro

    nitro

    Franklin,

    Thanks for the insight.

    nitro
     
    #112     Jul 17, 2003
  3. nitro

    nitro

  4. nitro

    nitro

    I agree 100%, but I hope for the right reason. However, I think you blow it when you make inflexible one fits all statements.

    For example, for a long time there was the African American hypertension mystery:

    http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000874C6-84ED-1CD6-B4A8809EC588EEDF

    Different climates and different cultures adapt differently and require vastly different diets.

    nitro
     
    #114     Jul 17, 2003
  5. OK, I'M HERE TO SET YOU ALL STRAIGHT...

    for you people discussing atkins, KNOW YOUR DAMN CALORIES!!!!!

    no matter what f#$&ing ratio of carbs/protein/fat you eat, if you're eating too many calories and ur not lifting weights, etc., YOU'RE GONNA GET FAT!!!!!

    STOP BABBLING ABOUT WHAT TO EAT WHILE COMPLETELY IGNORING THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT.........YOUR # OF FREAKING CALORIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    now, as for the RDA.....it is has been PROVEN that for some people, their protein recommendation is too low. so don't believe everything they say. their guidelines are for the average wuss doing nothing. if you lift weights/exercise a lot, it is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN that you need more.

    ROCK
     
    #115     Jul 17, 2003
  6. Foz,

    w3 comes from flax seed (sometimes fish) and w6 from sunflower/sesame seeds (among other things). You can get these blends from the Nutrition Dept. of the grocery stores. I prefer mixing equal weights of all three seed and grind them in a coffee grinder. Tastes kind of neutral and I add it to my omlet after I cook it.
     
    #116     Jul 17, 2003
  7. True, anytime you consume more calories than you expend you generally gain. However, on Atkins you're cutting out tremendous amounts calories, no sugar/low carbs. This keeps the insulin swings in check, the precipitant of low blood sugar which causes you to feel hunger.
     
    #117     Jul 17, 2003
  8. "sugar make the difference",, bwahaha what the fuck does that mean you retard! go see the wizard..get abrain thern come back and debate me you jerk.great max.. keep eating your high fat diet max. you are about to become a statistik you freaking idiot! HA! your a fucking fool. bwahahahahahha! who doesnt want to believe in high fat diet you imbecile. jhahahahhah! i laugh in your very stupid face! :p :p
     
    #118     Jul 17, 2003
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    #119     Jul 17, 2003
  10. Simply that taking a high fat diet and eating sugar equals the poisonous "typical American diet." The fat is only dangerous when combined with the sugar/insulin which then causes the clogged arteries.
     
    #120     Jul 17, 2003