Trading while trying to lose weight on Atkins

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Jul 16, 2003.

  1. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    It's easier with kids unless they overdo it. They are far more active than adults and their metabolisms are much faster. Even "adults" can get away with this for quite a while.

    But once you hit 35, the territory changes, partly due to the increase in inactivity, partly due to more drinking. But the aging process itself is also a giant factor and can't be negated.

    My niece was raised on fruit rather than candy or cookies or cakes, and to this day, in her thirties, she has absolutely no interest whatsoever in sweets of any kind.

    We raise our kids on sugared cereals, sodas, candy, cookies, cake, ice cream, and wonder why so many people are having so much trouble with so much weight. When I see fat parents taking their fat children into Baskin-Robbins, I feel like calling CPS.
     
    #101     Jul 17, 2003
  2. Your example on webmd is from a sample of 1 person. The medical community hasn't been been able to prove it for thirty years and in fact, recent studies with large groups proves the high-fat low carb diet results in BETTER blood levels than the AHA diet.
     
    #102     Jul 17, 2003
  3. Some stats.........

    http://www.dietandbody.com/article1022.html



    But as FPCs article mentions, it may be the lack
    of simple sugars that make Atkins work, and not
    all the protein and fat. Then again... i've never
    known a caveman to eat whole grain bread either :D

    On the other hand.... I read another article that
    talked about fats and proteins and they didn't seem
    nearly as dangerous as the guy states in the FPC article,
    if at all.

    Trans-fats.... now THOSE are real bad :D
    ( Unfortunately, they are in tons of american food )

    But the right kinds of fat seem to be fine, as well
    as beneficial.



    peace

    axeman
     
    #103     Jul 17, 2003
  4. you are nuts, on its face this is absurd. you just described the typical american diet with premature heart disease as #1 killer not to mention all studies showing higher incidence of cancers of all types as a result of this diet.
     
    #104     Jul 17, 2003
  5. LMAOOOOOOOOOO! :p

    peace

    axeman


     
    #105     Jul 17, 2003
  6. bobcathy1

    bobcathy1 Guest

    jem,
    Wow, 6 pages in 2 days. You hit a nerve here.

    50% of Americans are obese and probably a lot more could use a diet for those love handles and beer belly.

    Too bad there is not a magic pill to give every one. There used to be good ones for losing weight. Now we are told to tough it out.

    One a day keeps the flab away.:) :(
     
    #106     Jul 17, 2003
  7. #107     Jul 17, 2003
  8. franklin

    franklin

    One huge exception: Fructose (the simple sugar in fruit and soft drinks) has a very low glycemic index (is metabolized slowly). However, consuming lots of fructose will make you fat just like other carbs. Our chimp-like ancestors were apparently adapted to eating lots of fruit when it became available and storing it as fat. Also, the "fruit" they were eating was more like berries (more fiber, less fructose), not our "super-sized" man-made apples, oranges, etc. Eating an apple is actually metabolically very similar to drinking a coke (we've been "super-sizing" sugar-containing foods long before fast food became popular).

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    Forget Atkins (his "induction" phase is nuts, and you don't need to be paying anyone to help you with this diet change). Just keep your carb/protein ratio less than 2:1 (based on the most recent scientific studies), but not lower than 1:1 (you can subtract fiber and sugar alcohols from the carb.s). There are about 7 distinct health benefits you get from doing this, with weight loss being just one.

    BTW, it's also misleading (as some have done here) to argue that weight is just a matter of calories in vs. out, since that ignores the fact that it is much more difficult psychologically to do this when eating a high-carb diet.

    IMO, the low-carb diet is so EASY to do (more meat, nuts, cheese, etc.), and its benefits are so immediate and obvious, that it will become the norm rather quickly w/o the need for "diet revolutionaries" like Atkins.
     
    #108     Jul 17, 2003
  9. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    I suggest you look at the studies rather than read articles about the studies.
     
    #109     Jul 17, 2003
  10. Wrong, carbo breath! As mentioned, the sugars are what make the difference. The "typical american diet" is simply Atkins plus all the starches, breads, sugars and other insulin producing precipitants. On Atkins, they don't even want you to have Aspartame because it brings up the insulin levels. Atkins is in no way the "typical american diet."
     
    #110     Jul 17, 2003