Trading very big money

Discussion in 'Options' started by marsman, Jul 19, 2016.

  1. conduit

    conduit

    Exactly. Vastly different valuations than the 10 billion he claims he is worth. He probably forgot the 7 billion he blew on hookers.

     
    #11     Jul 20, 2016
  2. you basically have to take the other side of very big runs... if the market is up for a year.. you have been selling the whole time.. if the market is down all you do is buy... otherwise there is no liquidity
     
    #12     Jul 20, 2016
  3. In answer to your question: all of them... Hire a bunch of specialists to look at different mkts, et voila.
     
    #13     Jul 20, 2016
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  4. marsman

    marsman

    That's the core of the question. I was thinking that one can profit best/highest by trading such big money,
    but you say there are more profitable ways like owning real estate/business, ie. investing. Is that really truly?
    What about the big banks and investment houses? They are more active with trading than owning property, isn't it?
    How much profit is possible with real estate and business, maybe 10% p.a.,
    I think by using active trading one should be able to make much more than what is possible with investing in real estates/businesses.
    The problem with such big money is of course finding markets and counterparties for making big trades.
     
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    #14     Jul 20, 2016
  5. Currency and sovereign debt.....
     
    #15     Jul 20, 2016
  6. marsman

    marsman

    Because I somehow need to make about $750 billion in 5 years, starting only with $10k... :)
    So, I want to be prepared... :)
    Ie. making about 20% per month by active trading 5 years long, or looking for easier methods to achieve that goal.
     
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    #16     Jul 20, 2016
  7. marsman

    marsman

    How much profit is possible with them?
     
    #17     Jul 20, 2016
  8. marsman

    marsman

    What is CN? Canadian Govt Bonds?
     
    #18     Jul 20, 2016
  9. Most billionaires invest in traditional instruments like real estate, forex , bonds.

    A typical billion dollar portfolio contains(percentages might change due to their own preferences)
    8-10% real estate
    3% commodities
    10-50% stocks (especially their company's stock)
    30% in bonds + forex
    atleast 5% in cash


    They start a family office who control everything and take 1-3% of the profits you make. Most billionaires investors either start a family office or invest in a hedge fund. Reason? A company = low tax and protects him from large losses.

    If you're taking about everyday trading..no. They don't dump tens of millions of dollars on a stock, especially in the open market. Either OTC, or pre-open or they have sophisticated buying algorithms which hide their large volume by dividing into appropriate amounts.
     
    #19     Jul 20, 2016
  10. cvds16

    cvds16

    marsman, the only thing you are proving here is that you are not too smart ... and that must be the understatement of the year 2016 ...
     
    #20     Jul 20, 2016
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