Trading the S&P/DJIA spread

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by esc_trader, Dec 22, 2002.

  1. H2O

    H2O

    Why are you calculating the spread as :

    (ES *9.5) - Dow

    (I think you just divide the DOW value by the ES value)

    Have you ever thought of using volatility and point value into the calculation ?
     
    #11     Dec 24, 2002
  2. I do it this way because I have a program that calculates DJIA "fair value" using the S&P as a guide, and it's just easier for me to decipher this way, but certainly pairs are often tracked in the manner you suggest.

    I use 9.5 for the S&P simply because that is YM divided by ES at this time.

    How do you put those other factors into the equation?
     
    #12     Dec 24, 2002
  3. H2O

    H2O

    Point Value is very easy.

    ES * 50 = ES value (900 * 50 = 45000)
    YM * 5 = YM value (8450 * 5 = 42250)

    You now now the value of each product. According to this you should buy 1 and sell 1. (They are approx equal)
    If you look at the average daily range (volatility) you can also calculate an "ideal" spread

    I use special software which calculates the ideal spread. Unforuntely this can only be done on EOD but during the day nothing will happen that changes the spread dramaticly.
     
    #13     Dec 24, 2002
  4. sometimes with success ... but I prefer to do it outside

    of 930 am - 4 pm when it is easier for me to see

    if things are out of line
     
    #14     Dec 24, 2002
  5. john eley

    john eley

    I found watching the spreads interday helps to get the feel for how they move.www.livecharts com has delayed charts available .
    (es03h*50) - (ym03h*5) is the symbol you need too use.or your own formula.be sure too have a space between each part pf the formula ie (space es03h space * space 5 space) ect.hope this helps
     
    #15     Dec 24, 2002
  6. Looking to BUY (Cover) 2 at 19-23
     
    #16     Dec 26, 2002
  7. Ready to SELL at 32-34.
     
    #17     Dec 26, 2002
  8. Buying at 24-26
     
    #18     Dec 26, 2002
  9. Technical Problems - I'm taking the day off. Happy New Year!
     
    #19     Dec 27, 2002
  10. Looking to BUY at 21-23
     
    #20     Dec 30, 2002