Trading the Pivots

Discussion in 'Journals' started by JimmyJam, Aug 13, 2006.

  1. It's like this:

    In an uptrend you can:

    a) Buy Dips
    b) Buy breakouts of consolidation areas
    c) Buy breakout of previously established highs

    In a downtrend you can:

    a) Sell rallies
    b) Sell breakdowns of consolidation areas
    c) Sell breakdowns of previously established lows

    You can use any tool you want to determine the dominant trend of the current market, I'm just using the Pivot Trend Indicator (and it's currently Bearish, ie, downtrend to be expected until securties become "oversold" again, etc.).

    Best Regards,

    Jimmy
     
    #531     Sep 8, 2006
  2. I found it in Medved Quotetracker (the software I use for trading). You can google it and find out more about it. It's a fairly common indicator and available from a number of charting packages.

    It's just a tool I use to determine how price is reacting to the Pivots. The PSAR can be used to similar effect.

    Best,

    JJ
     
    #532     Sep 8, 2006
  3. For Thursday, 09/07/06

    Market Status

    Pivot Trend: Bearish

    1st Resistance: 1313
    Median Pivot: 1309
    1st Support: 1303

    Current Trend: Up
    ***
    Thursday was pretty good, I like where things are going now, let's see where they end up.

    The market is pushing up to R1, while it might make it past, I double it'll stay up there all day.

    See you at the open.

    Best Regards,

    Jimmy Jam
     
    #533     Sep 8, 2006
  4. Jimmy Jam,

    Thanks for the info. By the way, how do you like Medved QuoteTracker? I'm happy with Ensign, but looking for something else. Am I reading the prices right? It seems pretty inexpensive.

    John
     
    #534     Sep 8, 2006
  5. Cheap and good, along with IQ Feed, a great inexpensive setup for trading, intra-day or otherwise, the only shortcoming is that you only get 10 days worth of data on an intra-day basis, but hey, just save your screen shots :D .

    JJ
     
    #535     Sep 8, 2006
  6. DonKee

    DonKee

    I understand that you're setting up a filter based upon what you perceive as the daily trend of the market.

    The question for intraday trading using 3 to 5 minute charts to enter and exit:

    Is there any value in trading 3-5 minute bars in the direction of the daily trend? I have yet to see it.

    I do see value in trading 3-5 minute bars in the direction of the next few higher time frames (ie:15min or 30 min).

    I have found that when using very short time frames, you actually may be trading against the short term trend by using a daily filter. One of the possibilities for this is that the markets spend about 75% of their time going nowhere.

    For example: If the market has had 3 up days in a row, your daily trend may be pointing up, but the market may spend the next 2-3 days correcting that upmove. During that time, you will be trading against the very short term trend IF your filter is a daily trend.

    Just wanted to throw this out there as it may give you some ideas on developing a filter that is more reliable for the time frame in which you are trading.
     
    #536     Sep 8, 2006
  7. Wasn't what I was planing at 3am last nite, but I'm short at 1308.50.

    edit: support keeps trying to come in strong as heck, but I'll hold the position for now (didn't get a valid signal to close it).

    regards,
    jj
     
    #537     Sep 8, 2006
  8. volente_00

    volente_00

    Just a little tip coming from someone who trades nights,
    There is a high probabilty that the direction will reverse right at 3 a.m. est. I trade this phenomenon quite often.
     
    #538     Sep 8, 2006
  9. IMHO I agree with you 100%, and I actually spent this morning working on a method for filtering trades for the thread (I already have a pretty good filters for my proprietary systems).

    jj
     
    #539     Sep 8, 2006
  10. trade close at -1 pt, I'll let the big boys fight it out on this one.
     
    #540     Sep 8, 2006