Trading the Pivots

Discussion in 'Journals' started by JimmyJam, Aug 13, 2006.

  1. I'm shorting now at 1296.5, it's congested at the Median Pivot, as measured by the CCI 50 Histogram the trend is down, so long as it stays red, I'll hold the short.

    Shorting as a Continuation Sell
     
    #311     Aug 25, 2006
  2. romik

    romik

    this kinda adds strength to your signal
     
    #312     Aug 25, 2006
  3. garyrich

    garyrich

    Does it? I've never seen much value in those kinds of japanese candlestick patterns in an intraday context. They need a real open and a real close, a time when the rice merchants have to actually close shop and go home with existing positions. one day candles can tell me something, weekly candles even more so. Intraday I still display candlesticks when I look at charts, but just because they are easy to read - not because I expect a "three black crows" pattern to mean anything.
     
    #313     Aug 25, 2006
  4. romik

    romik

    Taking a trade that is based, just because there is a certain candle is inappropriate, I agree with you, especially intraday, but their presence can add to other indications that one might be seeing, therefore it is a Yes and a No, depending on how you treat them. I did say "adds" to your signal, also that was on a 240 min TF.
     
    #314     Aug 25, 2006
  5. longtex

    longtex

    Easy to read, aye.

    I watch for slowdowns at a turning point, and it's a lot easier to see range (hi/lo) and change (open/close) decreasing with the 'sticks.
     
    #315     Aug 25, 2006
  6. Yeah, honestly, a frustrating day for the Blog.

    Concentrated on my own trading, will have to continue to work to make the public system tradeable.

    Will recap over the weekend.

    Best Regards,

    Jimmy
     
    #316     Aug 25, 2006
  7. Observation: just because you don't see the value doesn't mean it is not there.

    I can assure you there is value and many traders benefit from it. If you want to learn more I suggest you read some Nihab threads. The "ET Master of Candlestick Analysis" IMHO.
     
    #317     Aug 26, 2006
  8. Perhaps people get too hung up on the pattern rather than the underlying 'sentiment' that the pattern represents. Its just another way of looking at price action.

    What I see in romiks chart is price in a small boxy range the top is tested and that price is quickly rejected. I guess some people might call it a hanging man doji or something.

    Cheers,
    nick.
     
    #318     Aug 26, 2006
  9. A couple of points:

    1. Just because a technique or tool may not work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work for someone else. Most traders who have tried something and can't get it to work for themselves assume incorrectly that it doesn't work.

    2. All tools or techniques are essentially meaningless if you don't understand the price action. Develop you thinking abilities first and foremost. You want to think deeply about what the price action on the chart means:

    Who is winning, who is losing and why?
    At what point are they likely to switch sides on each other?
    Who is confused?
    What will cause them to change their minds?
    When will they quit?

    Cheers.
     
    #319     Aug 26, 2006
  10. The Week in Review

    While our results last week were certainly less than stellar, the trading model is still net positive, and we've learned a few things from our experiences, eh?

    While the actually methodology that I'm using to enter trades will require some modification (don't like consistent losers, period) :( , the Pivot Trend model correctly called the downturn in the markets (shifting from Bullish, then to Neural, then to Bearish).

    Hope you're keeping track of the most salient points of this excersie folks, I know I am.

    Current Pofit/(Loss): 13.50 pts. over a two week period. Not bad, but can do better.

    Best Regards,

    Jimmy Jam
     
    #320     Aug 26, 2006