Trading the Moon

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by yoohoo, Sep 5, 2006.

  1. Go ahead make whatever assumptions you want.

    I know the moon has a gravitational pull that moves the tides, but I didn't think it could pull non-physical things like prices of various securities.

    If there is a correlation, I'm amazed people can bet money on it without understanding why the cause "supposedly" fits the hypothesis.

    The thing about indicators and oscillators is that they tell you what has already happened. This thread implies moon phases are predicting future cycles of the markets. No technical tool will tell you that, because it's a derivation of what already happened. Now when you guys find yourself getting a "moon buy" signal (whatever that is), why use any other technical tool, they only take from the past, why not just use the moon if it can predict cycles so reliably.
     
    #111     Nov 10, 2008
  2. It's not that farfetched to make the connection that the moon affects people, and people affect prices - but did you ever consider that it could also have something to do with option-expiration cycles, which are also monthly?

    It's just a passing thought by the way, I have no knowledge or experience in moon phase trading. I neither doubt it nor agree with it; to me, it just is.
     
    #112     Nov 10, 2008
  3. Give me a scientific reason why the moon has any effect over me in any way shape or form....

    I'd go with options expiration if it was timed with the moon (at least it's a real event in the market) rather than speculative and mythological psuedo-science (astrology etc)
     
    #113     Nov 10, 2008
  4. Must be R. Taylor you are referring to.
    Most ironic thing about his novel (if you've read it) is that there is a table in the back that accurately predicted every major market direction for years (with some --cough-- phase adjustments) just prior to publication. Ironically, the 1st out of sample year prediction after the publication, predicted wrongly with a 50/50 chance. It is a GREAT fiction read, however, I liked it a lot.

    P.S. to prior poster, moon cycles do not coincide with options expiration.:)
     
    #114     Nov 10, 2008

  5. I know that they don't exactly coincide, but they follow a similar pattern.
     
    #115     Nov 10, 2008
  6. ... and what pattern is that?
     
    #116     Nov 10, 2008
  7. Monthly.
     
    #117     Nov 10, 2008
  8. Last full moon marked a sharp reversal in S&P, 125 pts. if I remember.

    Hopefully crude will head towards $55 and SP will hit 830, so we can all catch a nice reversal!

    I put the so-called full-moon effect in higher regard than most technical indicators (and oscillators).
     
    #118     Nov 10, 2008
  9. Don't crazy people come out in a full moon night so they can see better, wouldn't that be a better explanation? Surely they're not any crazier during the full moon day during trading hours, you can't always see a full moon.

    this should be called the mickey mouse indicator.
     
    #119     Nov 11, 2008
  10. Apologies John. I keep thinking this thread is dead and then it pops up every now and again. The full moon was 2 bars before the current Dow low and perhaps you noticed that.

    The reason I started this thread was to let some traders see a basic version of how to use the moon so they could put it to the test. Of course it is beyond many to change their lifelong approach to knowledge and read the evidence presented, and to them I say it was never presented for your benefit, but for your pleasure to mock and joke over. If you can't have a laugh at yourself in trading you're too serious.

    John, how's about you adding the moon cycles to your charts and seeing for yourself if there's a benefit for you? Wtg for asking.

    Big thanks for those who use this as a trading tool and have made a contribution. Well done to those who are willing to study the evidence.

    For the rest of you cheeky monkeys, if we evolved from apes, why are their still apes?

    Enjoy the moon - full moon in 2 days.
     
    #120     Nov 11, 2008