trading the momentum cycle

Discussion in 'Journals' started by padutrader, Jul 5, 2018.

  1. padutrader

    padutrader

    update to this long trade, already market has broken previous spike high, see chart eg10.png
     
    #61     Jul 6, 2018
  2. padutrader

    padutrader

    closed this trade for a 25 pips profit.....i have had so many losing trades i do not trust myself or eurusd to let my profits run: with NFP in 4 hours anything can happen. i want to trade next week.going to start the weekend early.
    have a great weekend guys and gals
     
    #62     Jul 6, 2018
  3. They

    They

    Padutrader,

    As you know a trade has an entrance criteria a profit target and a stop loss - Your R:R ratio is essential within those three. If you keep adjusting the target and stop after you enter according to smaller time frame charts or some internet news you have changed the R:R ratio that allowed you to have a positive expectation of the trade setup. This type of jumping from strategy to book knowledge during a trade will not end well for you.

    Trading does not require reading books or quoting people who have written books. Trading requires rigorous testing - either back testing or screen time with copious notes, which is basically forward testing of setups. This will prove if your method/system has a statistical edge or not, again based off of three components; an entrance criteria, target and stop. If you randomly change your R:R (target/stop) mid trade you need to include whatever it was that made you do it into a new bout of rigorous testing.
     
    #63     Jul 6, 2018
  4. schweiz

    schweiz

    I read these statements all the time, but to me they are complete nonsense. Good entries are very important and can make trade management much easier. Trade management can never make a bad random entry profitable. And if you enter at a good price you can also use trade management additionally, so the total result will always be better then a random entry. At least if you know how to enter at a good price.

    If you are dealing in cars, why do you always want to pay the lowest price possible (equals good entry)? Because if the buying price is too high you probably cannot make any money in a sale as nobody will want to give you the high price you need to make any money. The problem was you paid too much when you bought the car. There is no kind of management that can fix that problem anymore, your starting position is fixed and you cannot improve your buying price anymore.
     
    #64     Jul 6, 2018
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  5. henry76

    henry76

    Basically you get far more choice when you enter as to when you exit , in fact entry is where all a trader's power and probability exist , random entry and then judged exit , has in a way by definition less probability because you are then limited in regards to when and where to be in a mkt .
     
    #65     Jul 6, 2018
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  6. _eug_

    _eug_

    Are you back in now on the break out?

    I believe in holding through the news releases if you are confident in your chart analysis.
     
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    #66     Jul 6, 2018
  7. padutrader

    padutrader

    no ...Unfortunately Brooks is quoted in isolation from the context he said it.Brooks is not an idiot.
    He did not become famous as an idiot, like i have.
    the fact remains that the market can and does change the game rules after your good entry; in which case only experience and management can save your a*se
     
    #67     Jul 6, 2018
  8. padutrader

    padutrader

    many many experienced persons do not trade through news -it is a personal matter.
    it is obvious you are quite new to trading:if you like me ,having been confident in the analysis, have blown over 100 accounts, then you also, like me, may change.
    the market sometimes just does totally inexplicable things......i would rather be around to trade on monday then blow another account
     
    #68     Jul 6, 2018
  9. padutrader

    padutrader

    no this is a huge bull bar.
     
    #69     Jul 6, 2018
  10. padutrader

    padutrader

    yes that is one of the biggest advantages to trading: in golf you have to hit the next shot you have no choice

    but that is exactly the point:after you in you have to survive.
    analyse for show, manage for dough.
     
    #70     Jul 6, 2018