Trading the Indices on Fundamentals

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by FXtrader8911, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. Overnight

    Overnight

    Yop. That was my first attempt at the markets, mostly. But it still involves picking tops and bottoms. See the journal thread.

    10 points from Griffendore, and tack on another 5%. So 25% drop.
     
    #171     Sep 24, 2019
  2. The power of trailing stops help do that automatically, then also keep a 10% buffer in capital and most of the time it works
     
    #172     Sep 24, 2019
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    You'd have to have trailing stops on the other side as well. It all cancels out.
     
    #173     Sep 24, 2019
  4. No, the trailing stop is placed on the position after it has moved into profit... you ride the wave, the stop triggers only when the market turns, there is no stop on the opposite position. If you are hedged, only one position needs a stop... the one that's generating the profit to counter the loss of the other.

    Hedging won't work too good in day trading and when you're scalping just a few points, but it works wonders longer-term and especially when your position is showing a loss so great that it would be painful to cut it, that's when you hedge and only if you think that the original position has a good chance to recover.
     
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    #174     Sep 25, 2019
  5. NotKnown

    NotKnown

    I use it when needed and it works ok. It does not work well in scalping as the points you are after and time in market is a bit small.

    Finishing up my response to ASIC... 7 pages in all!! Lucky I cut it down a little :)
     
    #175     Sep 25, 2019
  6. This job has moved to #2 in my todo list, how much time do I have?
     
    #176     Sep 25, 2019
  7. I still in the view that a correction is imminent, the balance of negatives surpasses the positives but the sentiment remains unrealistically high. IMO, a flush-out is required to allow the US markets to go higher on merit rather than sentiment.

    If the correction happens, the probable supports are as follows, if the 1st support brakes then the Dec 2018 lows could well be seen before a quick recovery. The recovery would incorporate a rotation into the more recession resilliant names.

    1st Support levels:-
    ASX200 6,144
    NIK225 20,166
    FTSE100 6,679
    DAX30 11,006
    MDAX50 23,001
    CAC40 4,877
    HSI43 23,850
    MIB40 19,618
    IBEX35 7,929
    EU50/STOXX50 3,065
    USsCAP2000 1,417
    US SPX500 2,730
    US NDAQ100 7,135
    VIX (Nov) 27 to 30
     
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    #177     Sep 25, 2019
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  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    I think I am using the wrong bar style to see what you guys are seeing. Will have to mull this over while on vacation next week.
     
    #178     Sep 25, 2019
  9. Master hedging with scaling and you are in the $3k/day club

    In essence only when you make a mistake or buy at the very top (or sell at the lows) will you see red in your account, markets, with few exceptions (one being in 2017), always have enough volatility that with hedging and scaling most losses can be recovered, sometimes not only recovered but exceed the original target... use whatever method you normally use to make a decision to enter a position, if price turns against you then hedge rather than stop.
     
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    #179     Sep 25, 2019
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  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    Define a high or a low. That's the real trick, isn't it.
     
    #180     Sep 25, 2019