Trading the E-mini: Results Comparison

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by GoldenEagleTrading, Jul 29, 2017.

  1. Than you.
     
    #11     Jul 29, 2017
  2. *Thank you.
     
    #12     Jul 29, 2017
  3. So here's a question for you ultra-experienced elite futures traders. Why has the best "managed futures" hedge fund been able to eek out only a 22.78% Annual Return (according to HSBC data compiled for 2016-see below)
    • Tulip Trend Fund, LTD -A (managed futures): The $274 million managed futures fund managed by Progressive Capital Partners is up 22.78% (to 2/17)
    when if I am able to scalp 10 "rookie" points off the E-mini daily or as algofy seems to suggest he/she is able to make 20+ points daily, those numbers amount to 100-200+% return on investment ($500 to open one contract) daily. That's between a 25,000-50,000% annualized roi nuking Tulip Trend Fund's and everyone else's numbers for that matter. Thoughts anyone?
     
    #13     Jul 29, 2017
  4. algofy

    algofy

    20 points is also rookie numbers, hardly worth the time.
     
    #14     Jul 29, 2017
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  5. Lol. Hey, more power to you. Trading a 100 contracts that's $100,000 per day, $500,000 per week, $2,000,000 per month, $24,000,000 per year. Good enough for me. :)
     
    #15     Jul 29, 2017
  6. johnnyrock

    johnnyrock

    Maybe. But if your swinging 50 cars at a pop that is 50 grand a day. Not so bad for a rookie.
     
    #16     Jul 29, 2017
  7. johnnyrock

    johnnyrock

    The problem is that most elite traders get bored with that kind of money. For a challenge they generally become vendors.

    Always pay it forward!
     
    #17     Jul 29, 2017
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  8. Yeah, but then your just a salesman, like everybody else. Besides, with that kind of money I can think of a few ways to keep from getting bored. :)
     
    #18     Jul 29, 2017
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  9. algofy

    algofy

    Okay in all seriousness, Golden...I would give my left nut to average 2 points a day in the ES and then trade big size on it.
     
    #19     Jul 29, 2017
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  10. Oh, I thought you were serious. Ok. Well, even in live real money "practice" sessions I've hit 2 points. One point target on each trade with a one point stop.
     
    #20     Jul 29, 2017