trading option pitchforks

Discussion in 'Options' started by atticus, Jun 18, 2012.

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  1. Derman.. “In physics there may one day be a Theory of Everything; in finance and the social sciences, you’re lucky if there is a usable theory of anything.”
     
    #121     Jun 27, 2012

  2. I have found that studying binary options helps with american option constructs. Again there is a whole other language which can be confusing,
    consider that when you take a straight up bet for the Cubs to lose you are taking an all or none binary bet so its a simple construct. I would avoid binaries with any firm out of Cyprus....:)


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Option_style
     
    #122     Jun 27, 2012
  3. i only trade plain vanilla american options..... i like the convexity you can create with their payoff structure..
     
    #123     Jun 27, 2012
  4. I have found that studying binary options helps with american option constructs.
     
    #124     Jun 27, 2012
  5. Curious, in what way? I've not other than the vanilla vertical vs. the Euro-style KI/barriers.
     
    #125     Jun 27, 2012



  6. $6.03 last marked to mid/FV, gain of $0.44. $1.84 in extrinsic remains. Would look to cover on tomorrow on any SPX drop of 5 or more:



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    #126     Jun 27, 2012
  7. to me the binary pricing strips out alot of unnecessary inputs, if you price a very short term option with a binary the results are quite similar, I was responding to cd's post regarding vol. It is just an input albeit a very important one. I think people get lost studying the greeks, so you end up spending gobs of time on the inputs, to me its what's the position, what's the trade.
     
    #127     Jun 27, 2012
  8. And the relation of payout to moneyness?
     
    #128     Jun 27, 2012
  9. not to go off topic but in the straddles thread falcon thought because
    he had a winner on a long straddle, thought he had found the grail, he didn't understand his gain was simply due to an increase in vol/vega. I don't think alot of retail guys realize you can simply isolate vol thru a simple calculator. Its too bad binaries are either ponzi type click here firms or OTC with no real access to smaller players.
     
    #129     Jun 27, 2012
  10. luck and randomness have so much to do with things its sick! thats why i always try to enable myself to have limited risk and unlimited reward through backspreads, and long vol trades...
     
    #130     Jun 28, 2012
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