Trading needs the same "revolution" that martial arts went through 15 years ago

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by IronFist, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. bjjtrader,
    with a two-hand on one wrist-technique, I can tear off your ligaments - and the more you resist - the more painful the technique is. I have done this on champion power lifters and persons with Captain Crush 2... It is tried and tested - it works, and no matter of strength or technique will get you out of it, because when it is locked in, it hurts like a mother.

    No matter the muscles, height or toughness - pain affects people - just like wringing the skin on persons. You can effectively control people's body positions using pain. Breaking off a finger, will set you out for a few seconds as well - as the pain is excruciatingly bad when it is done as a snap.

    Besides, with eye-gouging or nails slicing on eyes - it doesn't help to threaten when you are effectively blind.
    Attacking the eyes is the most effective of all self-defense techniques available. It can easily be used by kids or women.
    :)
     
    #181     Sep 29, 2008
  2. Jets001

    Jets001

    if the investment world was as disclipined at the martial arts world, we wouldn't be in this mess, just my opinon.
     
    #182     Sep 29, 2008
  3. The point is, you'll never pull it off against a grappler. They are simply BETTER at wrist/limb control than you are. They are better grip fighters too. Once on the ground, they can keep their eyes shut tight and still completely dominate you. Grappling blind folded is quite easy once you reach a certain level, say BJJ purple belt (advanced).
    Wrist locks are a part of BJJ, we know how to prevent and defend them and see it coming. You have almost no chance of getting this on a BJJ guy.

    It would be like getting an arm bar on a BJJ guy. Its not going to happen unless you are at least as good as him at arm bars.








     
    #183     Sep 29, 2008
  4. Grabbing one wrist and with the other breaking a finger is not that difficult... some BJJs and other grapplers, wrestlers, Judo, Sambo, farm hand - whatever person can have very strong grip which is difficult to break lose, especially on the ground with limited movement.

    Also, Hapkido is much better at wrist control than pure grappling is. Hapkido makes extensively use of it, like Aikido - only more linear and direct movements.

    BJJ elite and UFC heavy-weight champ Antonio Minotauro Nogueira has a famously strong grip which he uses off the bottom position to avoid damage - wrist control. Another effective technique is head control to avoid posturing and thereby denying strikes from opponent in top position.

    Grapplers are no different to anyone else, when it comes to small join manipulations and eye-gouging.
    Some wrestlers use body odor as an edge in grappling, though; and Matt Lindland is famous for this.
    :)
     
    #184     Sep 29, 2008
  5. About TKD kicks...
    In the UFC Fight Night #15 on September 17th, the preliminary fight between Italian Alessio Legionarius Sakara and accomplished Iowa wrestler Joe Vedepo, Alessio did a nice round-house TKD style kick to knock out Joe. It happens sometimes - like when Gabriel Gonzaga KO'ed Crocop... and a kick can be 4 times more powerful than a punch. Knees and elbows can carry more of the weight into the strikes, but are generally slower. You just need to know the right setups and distance when to use techniques like that, as well as having developed a muscle structure to quickly lift your thigh and leg high. It does add a lot of muscle that makes you less V-shaped in body form, because of the external obliques and sides, upper thigh and butt etc.

    I got a laugh when the "translator" of Alessio talked to Rogan in Portuguese, while Alessio is Italian - but he's training with the ATT (American Top Team - the migration from Brazilian Top Team) guys in Cockonut Creek, FL - like Thiago Pitbull Alves and many other north-eastern Brazilians who hate cold weather.
     
    #185     Sep 29, 2008
  6. This always brings a smile to my face when thinking about traders ... and the Elitetrader forums are a reflection on how traders are and what irks traders ...

    Don't you ever change, guys!


    Who else would kick the living shit out of Greenpeace protesters combating climate change?
    Gotta love 'em! Traders are no pussies that you mess around with ...

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2005/feb/17/activists.climatechange

    As three Greenpeace climbers hung a banner from the roof declaring "Climate change kills. Stop pushing oil", more than a dozen people were hurt when angry traders pulled a large metal bookcase on top of protesters and guards waded in to punch and kick people trapped in corridors.
    Activists expressed shock at the reaction. "They were in a frenzy. They just went wild. They were trying so hard to hit us they were falling over each other," said Peter Mulhall, a commercial manager from Liverpool protesting at the amount of oil being traded.
     
    #186     Sep 29, 2008
  7. LOL @ tkd kicks .

    MT kicks rule all the way .

    any tkd kick that looks like a MT will be cause it IS an MT kick.

    JJJ sucks too with their foo foo wristlocks.

    I'll take my wrestling double wristlock anyday.
     
    #187     Sep 29, 2008
  8. Streetwise,

    many martial arts share similar techniques. The difference in the roundhouse kicks is how rotation and the striking are treated. Another "twist" to this is the "Brazilian kick" or "Kyokushinkai kick" where you get over the guard of your opponent with a downward crescent rotation.

    As I have trained several different martial arts for years, I know there is a difference and how the various techniques have different applicability. Muay Thai kicks are great for liver kicks, mid-section and thigh kicking because of their high power impact with the shin and their speed.

    I used the Muay Thai teep all the time in my TKD competing and sparring to block, stop and push away my opponent.
     
    #188     Sep 29, 2008

  9. "Brazilian kick" is just a gimmick , MT has a downward high kick with loads more power.
     
    #189     Sep 29, 2008
  10. Streetwise,

    you won't hear any arguments from me about Muay Thai having overall the most powerful kicks. But I trained actively for as long as not belittle other styles or get "religious" about styles - even Nanbudo where they primarily defend - since I met accomplished fighters of any type. Here in Brazil they have the Capoeira, which I first knew around 1991 in Europe. I thought it was some hippies playing and singing "kumbaya" at the time. Then seeing Capoeira professionals here in Brazil I changed my mind and found a lot of respect for their style and acrobatics. I thought the same of Kung Fu at some point, until I was kicked in the head so hard that I flew back more than a meter and landed on my back in a regional full contact competition with a Viet Vo Dao practitioner and saw their skills for what they were.
    :)
     
    #190     Sep 29, 2008