Guys, I have myself never followed any course or training, I have just figured it out myself. Now, I have one time tried out a real-time advisory service for the S&P futures. This was at www.choicedaytrades.com by Ellery Coleman. If I would have taken all the signals, there would have been a nice profit however I did not take them. I was just curious for his signals and if he was for real. From what I have seen and the numereous E-mail's I exchanged with Ellery, I believe he is a person of honesty and integrity. Because of the death of his daughter a few months ago, he stopped the real-time live signals. At the moment he is just doing training and and selling a daytrading course on CD-rom. I haven't bought anything from him except the live signals but I think he is not selling crap. He is a mathematician. I have nothing to gain with directing people to him, nothing. Again, I'm not in the sales business anyway. But I think, he has some value to offer. So for the newbies this could be a good place to start.