Trading is easy, very easy, damn easy

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by MrCharts, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. Redneck

    Redneck


    Lacking context…. Lacking everything….. hmmmmm now let me think…..

    So if I follow – these trades had no context / no framework/ no box…., nothing which would provide a good foundation (way) to define, quantify, and identify - what we were doing, when we should do it, why we should do it…. or even if what we were doing - was the right thing to do to begin with – I see


    And like all good craftsmen / craftswomen, who use frameworks/ boxes to build – umm ….anything…

    I believe traders must also have a framework/ box in which to build a trade around – interesting….


    But to build a framework / box – one must have tools – no???


    So should I use – oh I don’t know.. let’s say – MACD, Stochastics, RSI, Elliott Wave, Fibonacci, Bollinger Bands, chart patterns, MA's, etc, etc, etc, etc – to build this box?


    I suppose I could… but if in fact I used these – then wouldn’t I already be in a box (thinking wise)….

    Because as most everyone else already uses these – and if I did what everyone else does – why then should I really expect anything different than what they’re already getting – Hmmmm…

    I believe that is how some define insanity too – curious

    And as I do so wish to be one of TFF – I can’t really rely on the many's way of thinking now…. Can I..



    On the other hand if I wanted to build a proper box…, then first mustn’t I step out of the box (thinking wise) – objectively look at what I’m trying to identify, quantify, define… then build a box to that specification… why I do believe so


    My – my how all this thinking has exhausted my one brain cell…..


    So I’ll shut up for now (as it is the only time my ears and mind are truly open..., and I can relax my one brain cell) and ask someone to assist in helping me think this through – please



    Btw MC – What is your thinking about my thinking Sir?

    (Aside – One time one of my kid’s baseball coaches stated “Baseball is a thinking man’s game” – I’ve expanded that saying to include life… and trading - obviously…..) :p


    Regards

    RN
     
    #101     Aug 17, 2009
  2. jim2000

    jim2000

    Aren't we trying to identify, quantify, and define a high probability setup for a profitable trade?

    If you have 'one' brain cell then I have 'half' brain cell which is also exhausted.

    Happy Trading
     
    #102     Aug 17, 2009
  3. jim2000

    jim2000

    We got 9 trades to go and a lot to learn

    It appears to be MC's turn
     
    #103     Aug 17, 2009
  4. +1 :)
     
    #104     Aug 17, 2009
  5. Redneck

    Redneck


    Hey Jim,

    True – and I would bet no two traders define "a high probability trade" the same way Sir

    (I see what I see... but do you see it)


    I also think it would depend on ones comfort/ skill level – of being a trader – and trading (managing) through it



    So

    How high is high

    How high is high enough

    Rhetorical questions Sir – as no two traders are really alike


    But always remember no matter how high – it is still just a gamble


    Take Care

    RN
     
    #105     Aug 17, 2009
  6. jim2000

    jim2000

    So other than 'price' what tools do you use?
     
    #106     Aug 17, 2009
  7. Redneck

    Redneck


    Good question - but as MC's intent is not to help me - I defer the answer

    I do not want to taint anyones open mind


    I will say I build my setups on the fly, and use 5 different intraday trading techniques - depending on the market's personality

    And seldom if ever intermingle the 5 - as that is a disaster waiting to happen

    eta - To me they are tools - each tool has a specific use, and specific time to be used



    RN
     
    #107     Aug 17, 2009
  8. LOL, Classic! :D
     
    #108     Aug 17, 2009
  9. 75% - 100%

    at 1:2+

    Risk:Reward ratio

    Note: 2+ means "reward level of at least twice the risk, perferably more - up to 4 or 5 times the risk - but those trades are hard to hold.
     
    #109     Aug 17, 2009
  10. Redneck

    Redneck


    So let me ask you...

    How do you ever "know" either of those two?
     
    #110     Aug 17, 2009