Trading Futures

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by arzoo, Nov 23, 2002.

  1. H2O

    H2O

    OK, Margin

    There are two kind of margins (Now don't get confused already...)

    First : Initial margin. This is the margin required when you open your position. If your acct value < this margin you are NOT allowed to open a position.

    Second : Maintance margin. This is the margin required DURING the time you hold your position. If your acct value minus your
    loss < the maintance margin then your position is automaticly LIQUIDATED AT MARKET !!! (This is dangerous in fast moving or thin markets because you can get a BAD price)

    Example :
    acct value 2000
    Init 1500
    Maintance 750

    Buy 1 es @ 1000 (Allowed because acct > initial) Market starts to drop market now 976 (loss 1200 (24 * 50)) acct value = 2000 - 1200 = 800 (So far so good)
    Now market drops to 974 (loss 1300 (26 * 50)) acct value = 2000 - 1300 = 700. Your brokers computer will automaticly liquidate your position without further notice to you.

    Dangerous :
    If you have still got working stop orders (which will be executed if market drops below your stop price so you're in a position you don't want) This you can calculate for yourself but it still happens.

    Thin markets : At the time of the autoliquidation, market trades at 950 * 975 (Not likely in eMini's but very good possible with other futures) You get liquidated AT MARKET. This will give you a price of 950. (a loss of 25 point > your maintance margin) Your acct value will be - 500 now (2000 - (50 * 50 = 2500)) so you have a dept with your broker !!!

    Greetings
     
    #11     Nov 26, 2002
  2. bobcathy1

    bobcathy1 Guest

    I have a reading list for you.

    Getting Started in Futures
    ETFs and Emini Futures
    The CME handbook on Futures trading.

    :cool:
     
    #12     Nov 26, 2002