Trading Dummies

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Babak, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. Razor

    Razor

    10-4

    Back to Dummy trades :D
     
    #171     Oct 6, 2005
  2. Razor

    Razor

    ATYT - went long
    MDCO - went long
    GPRO - went short
    JOYG - went short

    Took them on the 15 min chart setup. Stop was set below / above the bar prior to the setup bar.

    Any thoughts on my selections ?

    Cheers :D
     
    #172     Oct 6, 2005
  3. Babak

    Babak

    Trapper, given the 'fractal' nature of price I'm sure that you could take 'dummy' trades on any time frame really (from minutes to daily to weekly). The essence is the same, attempt to ride a trend via a risk limiting entry.

    Razor et al. please put up visual aides!If you like pick one chart from among your trades so we can look at specifics.

    Thanks. :)
     
    #173     Oct 6, 2005
  4. Razor

    Razor

    Hope this works :D

    1 of my 4 stops today.
     
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    #174     Oct 6, 2005
  5. Razor

    Razor

    We got a 3/1 r/r here :D

    Winner from yesterday :D
     
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    #175     Oct 6, 2005
  6. Razor

    Razor

    Long AHG 26.85, fwiw
     
    #176     Oct 7, 2005
  7. milan47

    milan47

    All the gaps were running away from me this morning. As I am waiting for the 15 min candle to form it shoots up or down.
    This one I managed to catch. Of course I did not have the balls to wait until the end of the day.... Here is NTLI

    I was scared to jump on BBI too.. What a waste!
     
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    #177     Oct 7, 2005
  8. nimrodeo

    nimrodeo

    Hi folks,

    My first post, so hope I don't get off to a bad start!

    I'm new to dummies and find this really fascinating stuff.

    May I ask a question, please?

    I'm not sure what we are meant to be looking for in terms of "unusual/price volume denoting a liquid and volatile stock", as per the methodology.

    For example, current day pre-market high volume? Or over the last few sessions?

    How are we defining volatile? Using a measure of Average True Range?

    Any guidance would be appreciated.

    nimrodeo
     
    #178     Oct 9, 2005
  9. Schaefer

    Schaefer

    Hey nimrodeo,

    You're correct, it's all of the above. This system works best on securities with some movement and volume, for example, gap ups and downs due to unexpected earnings, mergers, upgrades, downgrades etc.

    You could follow the news, stay on top of the after market and pre market movers and/or setup a filter on your scanner. And observe their movements way before the opening bell. After a while, you'd get a pretty good idea of what the security is going to do based on pre market action :)

    Happy trading :)
     
    #179     Oct 9, 2005
  10. Babak

    Babak

    nimrodeo,

    You're looking for the stock to be 'in play' which means that a lot of attention is directed towards it suddenly. Usually this is coupled with an event which puts a lot of people on the wrong side and gets others without a position to come in and take advantage of it.

    We're looking for rel. high volume, high trade count (*a lot* of trades going off, not one or two big blocks), price volatility (gaps and such) as well as news (as already mentioned).

    RIMM would be a good recent example (Sept 29 2005 and on Friday Oct 7 2005). It gapped down on negative legal news, the volume spiked and trade count was through the roof.

    In the end this is discretionary, you will have to define what is 'unusual' - or you can decide to let a mkt scanner do it for you - or as I've mentioned you can pick a strongly trending stock and find 'dummy' intraday entries into the eod trend. Or play it as a swing trade via eod. Or develop your own personal tweak.
     
    #180     Oct 9, 2005